I appreciate the encouragement, but I'm just tired of certain pointless shenanigans, so I didn't even read it. At some point, somebody has to stop that.P.S. Not like you to let someone have the last word, Mad-Pac.....
Yep, typical stuff for Terry Gilliam. Especially with Jonathan Pryce as they did in Brazil.
Well, I haven't read what he eloquently summed up (I just took a briefd look and realized it wasn't anything constructive, but, instead, was throwing gasoline in the fire, and decided to ignore it), because if I do, I WILL reply, and I'd rather not, at this point. I still don't understand how I got unnecessarily sucked into all this, but I now I'm making an effort to stay out it.
The board is doing OK considering it's an unknown show. So far so good. In 1999 I saw a couple episodes on cable and at that time it sound innovative and creative, but didn't give much thought to it again after that. I've been meaning to watch them again and the others I hadn't watched, but a couple years ago chose to do that with my Friday group, so I'm looking into it only now after all this time.
If you want to watch any of the episodes of Paradox, I can send you the link I've given to others. There's no "first episode" per se in an anthology, so you can pick and choose any you like. You might want to wait until we review them all or choose among the ones we have reviewed, as the quality of this show is irregular, as one would expect from an anthology based on previously published stories written by different people.
LOL! Gosh, even Leo, my cat, knows it's his reflection in the mirror and never falls for the "who's that cat" trick I try to pull. I guess not all cats are that smart.
Some animals are fooled, while others couldn't care less about a reflection. I don't know why they react either way.
Catweazle Dream
Hi, folks! I was perusing the Catweazle board the other day and because of that, and aftger watching a few other TV shows, I had a strange dream last night. I dreamed I was watching a lost Catweazle episode.
Somehow, Catweazle made a time traveling spell that worked. But the problem is that he carried Carrot along with him. And apparently another character the show was missing, a sexy, proactive male hero that would take care of action scenes. And for some reason, I felt I was perfect to play that part.
Anyway, Cat and Carrot materialized in a dusty street of a Medieval village. Upon arriving there, Catweazle told carrot he had to change clothes. He explained that, when you travel to the past, you can only take the place of someone that already exists, so he had to “play the part,” and for this, the change of clothes was necessary.
Carrot went behind some bushes carrying a bundle of clothes under his arm. To his horror, he emerged from there wearing a dress. Well, Catweazle had never said the person whose place Carrot was taking was a man.
Next, they had to find a solution for the most obvious problem: returning Carrot home. Catweazle set himself to work on the issue. He started flying over the area like Superman, and just like the superhero, Catweazle showed enhanced vision powers, so he could identify specific features in the terrain even from up in the sky. And I thought the show’s special effects had improved a great deal.
After reconnoitering the terrain, Catweazle devised a plan he was sure was going to work. He would draw a path on the ground and all Carrot had to do walk it until he reached his own time. All he had to do was make sure he followed the path and did not trip on his new dress. In order to make Carrot’s job easier, the path would shine or glow in front of him. But there was one caveat: the path was a straight line and Carrot had to follow it no matter where it went. This caused a few embarrassing situations, such as having to walk through a stranger’s house.
There were also a couple problems Catweazle forgot to mention: the final part of the path passed through a ditch of a certain depth, and Carrot would have to climb the other side, and the path ended in the sewer of a very busy street in a modern city, the final part being a metal ladder Carrot would have to climb as well. To make matters worse, as soon as Catweazle finished painting the final portion of the path, a kid showed up and erased part of the path, interrupting it. And as we know from magical circles that can contain demons, the line cannot be broken in order for the spell to work. In spite of all that, Catweazle was sure his spell would work and laughed maniacally at the thought.
The next thing I remember is seeing Catweazle and Carrot arriving in the busy street with heavy traffic. But the cars seemed different. I asked Catweazle, “When are we?” And he replied, “Fourteen.” At first I thought it was 1914, but that traffic was way too heavy for the time. Later I decided that he had meant “14 years ago,” so, as the show was made in 1970, we were in 1956.
At that moment I felt disappointed the writers had ditched the ditch, so to speak, and the episode didn’t show how carrot climbed the difficult part of the path and how he managed to arrive at his destination even with the magical path broken.
“We’re not home,” said a smiley Carrot. He seemed pretty fine with everything.
“First we have to visit your aunt Mildred,” he said. We walked for a while and ended in a club. Catweazle and I sat in chairs as we waited for Aunt Mildred. In that large room, Carrot was making new friends, as there was a large group of boys all around him, following every word he said. Then I noticed Carrot was no longer wearing a Medieval peasant woman’s dress. Carrot wore a blue flannel dress and it fit Carrot perfectly. Carrot also had long blonde hair, wore white gloves, a hat and held a small handbag.
Then Aunt Mildred showed up and I saw that she was played by Maggie Smith. “The package has been delivered,” Catweazle said, “I’ve done my part of the deal.” “Good,” she replied with a grin.
Then I asked Catweazle, “Do I have a wrong impression, or is Carrot extremely comfortable in those female clothes? And he looks much more interesting than I had realized.”
“It’s not just the clothes,” Catweazle replied.
Carrot approached us. “Hi, aunt Mildred,” she said. “I decided to stay and grow up as an American woman,” the girl said with a beautiful smile.
“Good,” said Aunt Mildred mysteriously again.
Well, I don’t know what happened after that. Did he sell out Carrot to that woman for some strange purpose? Was her decision to stay in 1956 as a woman a genuine decision on her own free will? Or was it all a plan made by Catweazle to fool Mildred and he would eventually rescue his young friend?
The answers would come next episode, in the second part. I woke up ready to apologize to the group and say Catweazle is actually as great show, and the next thing I wanted was to check the episode to see if I remembered the details right and to find out what would happen in the end.
But then I realized it was all a dream, and I had borrowed elements from “Rick and Morty” and the “Welcome to Paradox” episode named “Options.” And unfortunately, my opinion of Catweazle hasn’t changed a bit.
Hi, folks! I was perusing the Catweazle board the other day and because of that, and aftger watching a few other TV shows, I had a strange dream last night. I dreamed I was watching a lost Catweazle episode.
Somehow, Catweazle made a time traveling spell that worked. But the problem is that he carried Carrot along with him. And apparently another character the show was missing, a sexy, proactive male hero that would take care of action scenes. And for some reason, I felt I was perfect to play that part.
Anyway, Cat and Carrot materialized in a dusty street of a Medieval village. Upon arriving there, Catweazle told carrot he had to change clothes. He explained that, when you travel to the past, you can only take the place of someone that already exists, so he had to “play the part,” and for this, the change of clothes was necessary.
Carrot went behind some bushes carrying a bundle of clothes under his arm. To his horror, he emerged from there wearing a dress. Well, Catweazle had never said the person whose place Carrot was taking was a man.
Next, they had to find a solution for the most obvious problem: returning Carrot home. Catweazle set himself to work on the issue. He started flying over the area like Superman, and just like the superhero, Catweazle showed enhanced vision powers, so he could identify specific features in the terrain even from up in the sky. And I thought the show’s special effects had improved a great deal.
After reconnoitering the terrain, Catweazle devised a plan he was sure was going to work. He would draw a path on the ground and all Carrot had to do walk it until he reached his own time. All he had to do was make sure he followed the path and did not trip on his new dress. In order to make Carrot’s job easier, the path would shine or glow in front of him. But there was one caveat: the path was a straight line and Carrot had to follow it no matter where it went. This caused a few embarrassing situations, such as having to walk through a stranger’s house.
There were also a couple problems Catweazle forgot to mention: the final part of the path passed through a ditch of a certain depth, and Carrot would have to climb the other side, and the path ended in the sewer of a very busy street in a modern city, the final part being a metal ladder Carrot would have to climb as well. To make matters worse, as soon as Catweazle finished painting the final portion of the path, a kid showed up and erased part of the path, interrupting it. And as we know from magical circles that can contain demons, the line cannot be broken in order for the spell to work. In spite of all that, Catweazle was sure his spell would work and laughed maniacally at the thought.
The next thing I remember is seeing Catweazle and Carrot arriving in the busy street with heavy traffic. But the cars seemed different. I asked Catweazle, “When are we?” And he replied, “Fourteen.” At first I thought it was 1914, but that traffic was way too heavy for the time. Later I decided that he had meant “14 years ago,” so, as the show was made in 1970, we were in 1956.
At that moment I felt disappointed the writers had ditched the ditch, so to speak, and the episode didn’t show how carrot climbed the difficult part of the path and how he managed to arrive at his destination even with the magical path broken.
“We’re not home,” said a smiley Carrot. He seemed pretty fine with everything.
“First we have to visit your aunt Mildred,” he said. We walked for a while and ended in a club. Catweazle and I sat in chairs as we waited for Aunt Mildred. In that large room, Carrot was making new friends, as there was a large group of boys all around him, following every word he said. Then I noticed Carrot was no longer wearing a Medieval peasant woman’s dress. Carrot wore a blue flannel dress and it fit Carrot perfectly. Carrot also had long blonde hair, wore white gloves, a hat and held a small handbag.
Then Aunt Mildred showed up and I saw that she was played by Maggie Smith. “The package has been delivered,” Catweazle said, “I’ve done my part of the deal.” “Good,” she replied with a grin.
Then I asked Catweazle, “Do I have a wrong impression, or is Carrot extremely comfortable in those female clothes? And he looks much more interesting than I had realized.”
“It’s not just the clothes,” Catweazle replied.
Carrot approached us. “Hi, aunt Mildred,” she said. “I decided to stay and grow up as an American woman,” the girl said with a beautiful smile.
“Good,” said Aunt Mildred mysteriously again.
Well, I don’t know what happened after that. Did he sell out Carrot to that woman for some strange purpose? Was her decision to stay in 1956 as a woman a genuine decision on her own free will? Or was it all a plan made by Catweazle to fool Mildred and he would eventually rescue his young friend?
The answers would come next episode, in the second part. I woke up ready to apologize to the group and say Catweazle is actually as great show, and the next thing I wanted was to check the episode to see if I remembered the details right and to find out what would happen in the end.
But then I realized it was all a dream, and I had borrowed elements from “Rick and Morty” and the “Welcome to Paradox” episode named “Options.” And unfortunately, my opinion of Catweazle hasn’t changed a bit.
ant-mac
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" Marrow Escape" references a season two episode, as does the Puffin book cover about the Zodiac, so although Catweazle and Cedric's season two adventures weren't as engaging as Catweazle and Carrot's , they had an impact.
Well, @michaellevenson I'm disappointed you consider my post trolling. When I coordinated the Sages, anything could be a topic for conversation even if indirectly about the show. A joke, some curiosity, fanfiction, anything.could be used to foster the exchange of ideas and get some laughs in the process. In the worst case, odd ideas would be ignored by those who were not interested. I'm sad things are so regimented now that they won't pass the cultural filter. But then with such a culturally restricted show and its fandom, that kind of makes sense.
@Doctor Omega What the hell am I talking about? Well, I guess I failed to cross the cultural barrier once more. This is a very British group indeed. Our old gang used to be much more flexible to banter. Well, if you really want to know what I meant, let me know and we'll talk about it. Otherwise I'll just wait until I have a less unconvetional take on the show.
ant-mac
Member: Rank 9
I could make this a long post, but frankly my boredom threshold regarding Mad Pac is quite low, so I'll make it brief.
In a private conversation MP told me he was excited at the prospect of a new intake into The Sages. That excitement presumably wore off when he realised that British shows were likely to be the diet for the foreseeable future. Not his cup of tea, fair enough. But as Co - ordinator he should have stayed with B7 and Catweazle and constructively criticized using reasoned arguments, it would have been part of the fun. He had new willing members who voted in good faith for those shows. But instead he ran away, couldn't be arsed with it, taking those he could to another board, I call that running away . First time probably, a show chosen he couldn't relate to, and I get that, but he ran away!!
Now on a broader point, the whole of IMDF is a sort of melting pot of ideas, show reviews, comments etc, so having a group within a group is probably unnecessary, so I can't see The Sages or similar being revamped, unless MP wants to try elsewhere.
Shame it didn't survive longer here, what we needed was a commited and flexible and galvanizing co-ordinator willing to grasp the nettle of shows maybe not of his liking, for the sake of the group, we didn't get it, Brimfin on the other hand gave both shows a go, reasonably enjoyed them,.....pity he wasn't in charge.
In a private conversation MP told me he was excited at the prospect of a new intake into The Sages. That excitement presumably wore off when he realised that British shows were likely to be the diet for the foreseeable future. Not his cup of tea, fair enough. But as Co - ordinator he should have stayed with B7 and Catweazle and constructively criticized using reasoned arguments, it would have been part of the fun. He had new willing members who voted in good faith for those shows. But instead he ran away, couldn't be arsed with it, taking those he could to another board, I call that running away . First time probably, a show chosen he couldn't relate to, and I get that, but he ran away!!
Now on a broader point, the whole of IMDF is a sort of melting pot of ideas, show reviews, comments etc, so having a group within a group is probably unnecessary, so I can't see The Sages or similar being revamped, unless MP wants to try elsewhere.
Shame it didn't survive longer here, what we needed was a commited and flexible and galvanizing co-ordinator willing to grasp the nettle of shows maybe not of his liking, for the sake of the group, we didn't get it, Brimfin on the other hand gave both shows a go, reasonably enjoyed them,.....pity he wasn't in charge.
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What surprised me is how quickly he gave up on both shows. He never really gave either a chance. In the past he always ,maybe grumpily stuck with it. He left B7 before even finding out who the " Seven" were, and before the antagonists entered. It's like giving up on Star Trek before the Klingons turn up. He seemed to have it in for B7 from the start. By episode 2 he was using specifications of fictitious craft from shows made decades later, to prove B7 had got it wrong about the size of the galaxy.
As for Catweazle, I wonder if a bit of jealousy is involved here.
MP is a children's author , probably crafting his work with tight plotting etc, and Carpenter 's Catweazle was incredibly popular, like his other shows, Ghosts of Motley Hall, Robin of Sherwood, Dick Turpin, but not particularly historically accurate and with a " lets entertain the kids" philosophy. Perhaps a bit of resentment there from MP. And bizarrely he kept banging on about Catweazle being portrayed as an animal, because in ONE episode only, he was on all fours looking for his toad, which at about 3 inches high, and running round the floor of a museum, on all fours is the best way of looking for it.
Anyway both boards are still ongoing, albeit slowly, so if he wants to come back and be constructive, fine. But it looks like given the choice of more Brit shows or ending the Sages , he chose the latter. Sad.
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@Doctor Omega It's intellectually lazy to just dismiss something you don't like as something of a "troll" especially when you don't even write it yourself, but instead steal ameme from somebody else who took the work of creating it.
And why would I reply to a highly inflammatory post (I presume)? What you want is to see @ant-mac and I argue over water under the bridge while you comfortably watch it on your armchair. Very devious.
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Couple of points, I never left The Sages and came back, until Twin Peaks of course.
Before then I did all shows, remember I did Kolchak under another username. Also I'm sure in the history of The Sages, others gritted their teeth and did a show they didn't particularly like, or left, but you were the co-ordinator, that makes a difference. Finally I've no desire to run the Sages, but bearing in mind Cloister 56, the last Sage, and his nomination last time, I'm going to contact him in PM , in case he doesn't see this, and suggest an Omega Factor rewatch, not in a group , but just ask if he'd like to do it with me, and anyone else who is interested.
UPDATE
Since posting this, myself and Doc have introduced a new group, The Gurus of Telefantasy, this isn't a takeover of the Sages, it's a new group.
We have six shows running concurrently and people can choose what to participate in. You're welcome to join in.
Details here;
https://www.imdforums.com/threads/the-gurus-of-telefantasy.5141/
Before then I did all shows, remember I did Kolchak under another username. Also I'm sure in the history of The Sages, others gritted their teeth and did a show they didn't particularly like, or left, but you were the co-ordinator, that makes a difference. Finally I've no desire to run the Sages, but bearing in mind Cloister 56, the last Sage, and his nomination last time, I'm going to contact him in PM , in case he doesn't see this, and suggest an Omega Factor rewatch, not in a group , but just ask if he'd like to do it with me, and anyone else who is interested.
UPDATE
Since posting this, myself and Doc have introduced a new group, The Gurus of Telefantasy, this isn't a takeover of the Sages, it's a new group.
We have six shows running concurrently and people can choose what to participate in. You're welcome to join in.
Details here;
https://www.imdforums.com/threads/the-gurus-of-telefantasy.5141/
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THE SAGES CONTINUE ( temporarily at least)
I have decided after some thought to take up the previous Co ordinator of The Sages suggestion that I take up the reins and lead it to a new golden age. Though methinks he was being a bit sarcastic!!
Myself and Cloister 56 are reviewing the ten part BBC classic The Omega Factor. Please join us. A new episode thread will be posted on Thursdays. What will happen after this show will depend on how many join us, if any, so it may be a temporary continuation of The Sages.
Meanwhile Doc Omega and Myself have formulated The Gurus Of Telefantasy review group, there's room for both.
The Gurus have some wonderful shows all up and running, the threads are already there for all episodes, so folks can review at their own speed, quick or slow, and any episode you fancy talking about. I'll certainly be continuing with Blakes7, Catweazle and others.
But if you like the one episode a week format of one show then The Sages might continue to work, one show at a time is best for The Sages, something the previous Co ordinator lost sight of.
So Sages and Gurus, here's hoping for the success of both
I have decided after some thought to take up the previous Co ordinator of The Sages suggestion that I take up the reins and lead it to a new golden age. Though methinks he was being a bit sarcastic!!
Myself and Cloister 56 are reviewing the ten part BBC classic The Omega Factor. Please join us. A new episode thread will be posted on Thursdays. What will happen after this show will depend on how many join us, if any, so it may be a temporary continuation of The Sages.
Meanwhile Doc Omega and Myself have formulated The Gurus Of Telefantasy review group, there's room for both.
The Gurus have some wonderful shows all up and running, the threads are already there for all episodes, so folks can review at their own speed, quick or slow, and any episode you fancy talking about. I'll certainly be continuing with Blakes7, Catweazle and others.
But if you like the one episode a week format of one show then The Sages might continue to work, one show at a time is best for The Sages, something the previous Co ordinator lost sight of.
So Sages and Gurus, here's hoping for the success of both
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