How Authentic a Trek Show is This?

  • This feels like the real deal!

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • Have these guys even watched the original series?

    Votes: 9 90.0%
  • I'm still on the fence

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    10

Doctor Omega

Member: Rank 10
They seem to be doing the wack-a-mole thing of stamping on it wherever it pops up.

Yet I think this was a legitimately released trailer, not a leak.

All very odd.
 

Doctor Omega

Member: Rank 10
The whole thing feels almost borderline fan-film to me, in both budget and feel.

And as for that Klingon redesign......
 

Gavin

Member: Rank 6
VIP
As more and more information has come out about this show, I've gone from anticipation to concern to "why bother, it'll probably be cancelled quickly anyway"
 

Gavin

Member: Rank 6
VIP
You're assuming they were smart enough to come up with a plan that was that simple.
I'm assuming that it's hard to fuck up as badly as it appears they have without putting in a lot of effort towards that goal. Even cutting up old scripts from the various series and taping them back together in random order would probably be better received than this.
 

Doctor Omega

Member: Rank 10
Star Trek: Discovery’s Klingon may look unfamiliar for a reason
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The theory behind their “new” look


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After months and months of waiting, CBS finally released the first trailer for Star Trek: Discovery yesterday (seen above) and one aspect stood out above all the rest: the Klingon’s new look.

The most notable difference between many of the Klingons in Star Trek: Discovery and the look of Klingons in, say, Star Trek: The Next Generation, as seen in the prosthetic makeup on Michael Dorn as Lieutenant Worf is the lack of ridges on the new Klingons’ foreheads. Unlike Worf, their foreheads are smooth, which has led to many fans theorizing that this is an ancient group of Klingons that slowly died out.


These ancient Klingons belonged to a group of alienated people who encountered humans on the edge of Federation space. In 2154, a group of Klingons managed to get their hands on Human Augments, a genetic material they used to try and improve their own genetic makeup. While this helped the Klingons become stronger and more intelligent, it also degraded their physical makeup. When one of the affected Klingons came down with a Levodian flu, the combination of the sickness and the genetic differences created an airborne, fatal plague that spread from world to world. This is all confirmed in Star Trek: Enterprise, one of the Star Trek series that happens to pre-date the Original Series.

It was in the early stages of this plague that these Klingons lost the ridges on their foreheads. It was only with the help of the Enterprise’s Dr. Phlox that a cure for the plague was discovered. Star Trek: The Original Series takes place in 2364, but again, Star Trek: Enterprise takes place before that. Considering Discovery takes place before the events of the original series, which focused on Captain James T. Kirk and his crew aboard the Enterprise, and just after Star Trek: Enterprise, the timeline allows the theory to potentially come to fruition.

The only counterargument is that the Klingons in the original series most likened humans. We know that because of the genetic mutation, they began to look more normal before a cure was found. If this is the storyline that CBS wants to take Discovery in, that will need to be addressed as these Klingons aren’t as similar to humans as their later counterparts.


One other interesting aspect about the ancient group of Klingons that should be acknowledged is how religious they were. In the trailer, it seems like the Klingons have gathered together for a religious ceremony. Combined with the lack of ridges on their forehead, it seems to suggest that one of the focal points of the series — along with the crew of the U.S.S Discovery — may be the ancient Klingons trying to save their quickly vanishing species.

Former showrunner Bryan Fuller mentioned that Discovery would focus on an important event from the original series that wasn’t ever examined in-depth, but didn’t mention anything specific about the Klingon race at the time.

Star Trek: Discovery will launch this fall on CBS’ stand-alone app, CBS All Access.
 

Doctor Omega

Member: Rank 10
Me too!

I think people may have had enough of the po-faced Star Trek type show, full of profound speeches and "Shields up!"

And prequels.

I suspect that "The Orville" may be that Galaxy Quest series that people wanted.
 

ant-mac

Member: Rank 9
Me too!

I think people may have had enough of the po-faced Star Trek type show, full of profound speeches and "Shields up!"

And prequels.

I suspect that "The Orville" may be that Galaxy Quest series that people wanted.
It looks good, but will it be as good as QUARK?
 

Gavin

Member: Rank 6
VIP
I think people may have had enough of the po-faced Star Trek type show, full of profound speeches and "Shields up!"
I don't think that's necessarily the case. The main problem is that the network knows Star Trek is popular enough to warrant movies and tv shows but they don't have enough faith in the concept to leave it alone and seem to think that they need to keep tweaking it to appeal to a greater fan base. But all that does is alienate the existing fans.
 

Janine The Barefoot

Wacky Norwegian Woman
I finally found a trailer that CBS hasn't Geo-Blocked in the US and a lot of it looks beautiful.

I do love Michelle Yeoh and want to see it if only for her but I have very real questions about the motives and plans that the people now in charge have for it and I can't say I'm excited or comforted by any of that. I may end up taking a pass altogether just on principle alone.

:emoji_kiss::emoji_dancer:
 

ant-mac

Member: Rank 9
I just want them to focus on getting the continuity and consistency right.

As this TV series is basically set at the same time as THE CAGE with Captain Pike, they need to be very careful about how they go about depicting the characters, uniforms and technology.

It would also be nice if the Klingons actually looked like fucking Klingons...

Why don't they change the way Humans look instead?
 

Doctor Omega

Member: Rank 10
Burton gives his thoughts on Discovery trailer

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The first Trek acting vet to to talk about the new Discovery trailer is LeVar Burton (TNG’s Geordi LaForge). In an interview with the Detroit Free Press at the Motor City Comic Con in Detroit, Burton said:

Looks beautiful… And I love the fact that, again, true to the values of Star Trek, that, at least from what I’ve seen on the clip, that the command structure is women of color
 

Doctor Omega

Member: Rank 10
All quiet on the celebrity front


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One group that hasn’t been talking about the trailer are the various veterans of Star Trek.

The writers, producers and stars made famous for being part of the Star Trek franchise over the last few decades have mostly not offered up any opinions on the newest entry into the family.

Two exceptions are Levar Burton - and also Roberto Orci, co-writer/producer of the 2009 Star Trek and 2013’s Star Trek Into Darkness.

have nothing to do with it, but as a fan it looks good.
 

Janine The Barefoot

Wacky Norwegian Woman
Yeaaaaaaah riiiiight..... cause that must be happiness .... that look I'm reading on Orci's face! I gotta ask myself how they roped Levar in. I know that JL used/conned/convinced Eva Green to shill for him after S3 of Penny Dreadful became the "shot heard round the world" but just because someone from Hollywood is saying something, that doesn't imply it means anything.... but wait, we knew that already!

:emoji_kiss::emoji_dancer: Nope. NO on the DBs for Discovery :emoji_money_mouth: for the thoughts behind all of CBS actions! :emoji_tired_face: for the fans :emoji_no_good: for the cast
 

Doctor Omega

Member: Rank 10
Explanation for delays - and Rumours of Celebrity Cameos...


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Star Trek: Discovery is premiering this fall — finally.

The newest Star Trek live-action TV series was announced to air on the CBS All Access streaming service back in November 2015 and had trouble getting off the ground, as showrunners Bryan Fuller left the project during a troubled development. But with a teaser trailer generating hype for the show, and a star-studded diverse cast including Chinese superstar Michelle Yeoh and The Walking Dead star Sonequa Martin-Green, it seems like Star Trek: Discovery can finally boldly go forward.

Co-creator and producer Alex Kurtzman dished on the reason for the show’s delay, as well as the celebrity cameos that are peppered throughout the series.


In an interview with Collider, Kurtzman explained the long delay of Star Trek: Discovery, which was initially slated to premiere in January this year before CBS announced that it was “flexible” about the release date:

“We postponed our schedule because the truth is we did not want to put out something that was subpar, and as the vision expanded we started feeling like we weren’t gonna be able to deliver the scope and the scale that was on the page. And CBS was extremely supportive in saying, ‘Okay you know what, this is streaming, it’s not like we have to beat out right away, let’s do the best version of this, Trek is too important for all of us.’”

Despite the troubles behind the scenes and the disappointing fact that it’ll be on a streaming service and not on TV after the first episode, there are plenty of reasons to be excited for Discovery: It is the first live-action Star Trek series since Star Trek: Enterprise went off the air from UPN in 2005. It has tons of talent behind and in front of the screen — the cast is rounded out by actors Rainn Wilson, Doug Jones, Jason Isaacs and more; and Fuller, Kurtzman, Akiva Goldsman, The Wrath of Khan director Nicholas Meyer and Star Trek royalty Rod Roddenberry, the son of original Trek creator Gene Roddenbery, have worked on the show. And it explores a new period in the Trek timeline, approximately 10 years before the original series’ takes place.

Not to mention the celebrity cameos that Kurtzman also teased to Collider. More than a few famous faces will appear in Discovery, many of them huge fans of Star Trek:

“So many actors are fans. We literally got a list of them that were like, ‘Here are people who said they want to be on Star Trek’. It was awesome… To just be in an episode or come in or out.”

Who could the cameos be? Martin-Green’s former Walking Dead costar Andrew Lincoln has said that he would like to appear on Star Trek as an alien, and the OG Captain Kirk, Williams Shatner, has expressed interest in doing a cameo through some time travel finagling. I’m sure we’ll find out soon enough.

Star Trek: Discovery debuts sometime this Fall.
 
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