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Thompson then pointed out that the comics set a precedent for the idea with the ‘Lady Liberators,’ a team of female Avengers first assembled in 1970 in a one-off issue. The team consisted of Valkyrie, Wasp, Black Widow, Scarlet Witch, and Medusa.
Sounds like a guaranteed winner and all the characters are already owned by Marvel and cast (although Medusa only on TV ).
 

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Fincher Talks Avoiding The Marvel Universe


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While some filmmakers have embraced the Marvel Cinematic Universe, others have zero desire to be a part of it and in fact have no interest in either the Marvel Studios formula or comic book adaptations.

One such filmmaker is David Fincher who, out promoting his new Netflix series “Mindhunter,” took aim at Marvel Studios for being in part responsible for the state of conglomerate-ruled Hollywood at the moment. In fact he’s far more excited about the possibilities of something like Netflix where he’s not bogged down to either familiar formula, or having to accomodate someone else’s vision. He tells Yellow King Film Boy:

“Look, there’s a very large talent pool of people who don’t feel there’s much for them in terms of sustenance working for Marvel. And I think that if we can make a playground for them that is thoughtful, adult, interesting, complex, challenging stories and figure out ways to pull them into it, there’s a chance at something that isn’t lassoed and hogtied by three acts. And there’s something else that doesn’t have to be 22-minute half hour or have a cliffhanger. I think it is an exciting time.”

The interview goes into how he thinks the great films of the 1970s, in that period where studios just let filmmakers run wild, are impossible to make at vertically integrated movie studios now and how streaming services should be embraced for the freedom they allow filmmakers to tell their stories. Click on the link above to have a listen.
 

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Feige Talks Criticism Of Marvel’s Similarity


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Marvel Studios has worked out a formula that’s both popular and well regarded, and they’re sticking to it. Nearly twenty films in since they began their run with “Iron Man” in 2008, you know what you’re getting when you buy a movie ticket to a film within the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Yes the movies do take a few minor risks, effectively changing an ingredient or two in the recipe at times resulting in some playful if somewhat slight tonal shifts. But they stick to a structurally sound plan which puts mass audience appeal and satisfying their fan base front and center.

You can’t argue against their financial success or their decision to appeal to their base, but their artistic success can be debated and the criticisms leveled against their films have taken on some commonalities over the years. Weak & underwritten villains, forgettable scores, a uniform visual aesthetic and homogenous story beats, etc. you could well argue there’s enough similarities to make the movies somewhat interchangeable.

Even when they try an actual narratively daring decision, such as was done with The Mandarin reveal in “Iron Man 3,” they were effectively crucified by their base for stepping out of line. Speaking with Uproxx this week, Marvel’s Kevin Feige reflected on those criticisms and puts it down to the fact that by being a part of a linked universe, people are automatically putting the focus on the similarities:

“I think it’s just the way we make the movies. I think all the movies are relatively different. I think there’s a narrative that people like to write about because they’re all produced by the same team and they all inhabit the same fictional cinematic universe. That we look for common similarities.

And I’m not saying there aren’t common similarities throughout it, but I think ‘Thor: Ragnarok’ and ‘Spider-Man: Homecoming’ are two totally different types of movies. They’re both fun. People both enjoy them. Is that a similarity? If so, I’ll take it.

If that’s a criticism, I’ll take that, too. But really, yeah, ‘Homecoming,’ ‘Ragnarok,’ ‘[Black] Panther,’ into ‘[Avengers:] Infinity War,’ ‘Ant-Man and the Wasp’ after that. And a ’90s-set ‘Captain Marvel’ after that; these are six very different movies. If what they have in common is they’re all really enjoyable and fun to watch, then I’ll take it.”

Feige certainly has no reason to change his approach thanks to mostly high review aggregate scores and stellar box-office with a film series that, unlike so many others this year, isn’t showing signs of audience fatigue at this point.

“Thor: Ragnarok,” which really is one of the most different of the Marvel films, opens in cinemas on November 3rd.
 

Doctor Omega

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Don’t Expect Marvel Phase 4 Talk Until 2019


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If you’re keenly awaiting news before the year’s out on Marvel’s Phase 4 plans, you’re out of luck. In fact, Marvel’s Kevin Feige has indicated that the company is so focused on ending its third phase with the fourth “Avengers” film in May 2019 that they won’t make any announcements about their plans beyond it before that is released.

Speaking with Collider, Feige was asked when we could expect to hear something on the Phase 4 films to which he said: “It won’t be for a while. Our focus is on the next six movies. Finishing the first three phases, getting Untitled Avengers out into the world in May ’19 before publicly focusing on anything else.”

Marvel Studios is currently in production on the fourth “Avengers” which will mark the culmination of the entire Marvel Cinematic Universe up until this point. That is confirmed to be followed by a “Spider-Man: Homecoming” sequel in July 2019, and the third “Guardians of the Galaxy” in early 2020.

Nothing else beyond that has been confirmed and Marvel has made a concerted effort to prevent spoilers from getting out in recent months, including the title for the fourth “Avengers” film which is apparently a spoiler in itself and won’t be revealed until after “Avengers: Infinity War” is released.

The comments come as actors are beginning to wrap up work on the fourth “Avengers”. Spider-Man star Tom Holland confirmed in a video on Reddit that while he got through his filming on “Avengers” unscathed, he’s now broken his nose for a second time filming the new sci-fi feature “Chaos Walking”.

Sebastian Stan, who plays the Winter Soldier, also recently explained at Rhode Island Comic Con that the shooting schedule for the film was a challenging one with scenes being shot months apart at times:

“It’s not something you always deal with. I feel like you always kind of have a script. But I guess, what I would say is, because we’ve done these characters for a bit now, there’s a little bit of a telepathic kind of knowledge between us and the writers. And you kind of can sometimes guess where they’re going to take it, a little bit. For example, this one was really hard, because we keep going in and out. I go back there for a week, and then I leave for a month. And then I go back there for a few more days. So it’s a little bit out of sync. But it still hopefully adds up in the end.”
 

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Richard Armitage Is Wolverine… In A Podcast


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“The Hobbit” and “Spooks” alum Richard Armitage has been cast as Wolverine – if only in voice form.

Marvel has announced they’re partnering with Stitcher Audio to produce the scripted podcast “Wolverine: The Long Night” which writer Ben Percy describes as a blend of programs such as “Serial,” “S-Town,” “True Detective” and “Unforgiven”.

The story follows two special agents investigating a series of gruesome murders taking place in Burns, a fictional Alaskan town. An amnesiac Wolverine (Armitage) is the agents’ top suspect for the killings, but as they begin to dig into the town’s mysteries they soon learn that all isn’t necessarily as it seems.

The show will boast an investigative format, which makes listeners complicit in the narrative along with elements of comic book themes, Native legends and cultish mythology. Armitage has reportedly already done some work on the project.
 

Doctor Omega

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Marvel’s Feige Keen To Get The “X-Men”


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Disney acquiring 20th Century Fox isn’t yet a certainty, but it seems likely at this point with franchises like “Alien,” “Planet of the Apes” and “Avatar” soon to be ready to set up shop in the Mouse House.

The one property that fans are all excited about the possibility of is the X-Men joining the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and Deadline reports this week that Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige is “said to be eager to get his hands on the X-Men Universe”.

Of course this will take time as even after the deal is announced, it still requires regulatory approval and Disney is legally prohibited in managing its pending acquisition for about a year, during which time it will likely start to determine what to do with the studio’s numerous franchises.

This means Fox’s 2018 film slate will be left pretty much intact including the three X-Men properties that have already completed filming – “The New Mutants,” “Deadpool 2” and “X-Men: Dark Phoenix”. The fate of those still in development however, including the Channing Tatum-led “Gambit,” the “X-Force” film and James Franco’s “Multiple Man” project remains unclear.

Should the acquisition go through, the X-Men property would almost certainly be rebooted with new actors in the key roles, but very likely no introductions until well into the fourth phase which begins after the currently filming and nearly wrapped fourth “Avengers” film opens in May 2019.
 

Doctor Omega

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Marvel’s Feige: “Develop Films THEN Universes”


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In recent years, the buzzword has been ‘cinematic universe’ with studios racing to establish and build out massive multi-film franchises even before a first film has been released.

All are trying to emulate the success that Marvel Studios has had with its now well established Marvel Cinematic Universe, but they’re also trying to get to the same level of success faster. The trouble is, almost all have fallen flat on their face.

Universal’s Dark Universe effectively collapsed after its “The Mummy” reboot fizzled. The fifth “Transformers” tried to establish one and ended up earning significantly less than its predecessors. Sony’s “The Dark Tower” adaptation bombed on impact and the studio is currently trying again with Spider-Man after their previous attempt with “The Amazing Spider-Man 2” was bad enough the whole franchise had to be reset.

Then there’s the DC Extended Universe which has been commercially solid but a critical misfire other than “Wonder Woman” and to a lesser extent “Man of Steel,” and that’s mostly because those were the most standalone films of the series. With the exception of Warners’ mini-“Conjuring” series which has had robust success, almost all recent attempts at instant interconnected franchise building have been disappointments.

Marvel Studios chief Kevin Feige, in a new interview with Vanity Fair, has offered a common sense answer as to why others are failing at it:

“The only advice, and I’ve sort of said this already today, is don’t worry about the universe. Worry about the movie. We never set out to build a universe. We set out to make a great Iron Man movie, a Hulk movie, a Thor movie, a movie, and then be able to do what, at the time, nobody else was doing: put them together.

Bring that experience that hardcore comic readers have had for decades of Spider-Man swinging into the Fantastic Four headquarters, or for Hulk to suddenly come rampaging through the pages of an Iron Man comic. We thought it would be fun for filmgoers to get that same – on a much bigger canvas – rush, because there is something just inherently great about that: seeing characters’ worlds collide with one another.

That’s what is so amazing every day on the set of ‘Infinity War.’ These characters have no business being in the same room together. It’s ridiculous. Everyone within Marvel Studios just knows the individual movie trumps the overall picture.

If there’s a better idea for a movie – if we were going to plant a seed in this movie that was going to be awesome and pay off three movies later, but that seed is not working and that seed is screwing up the movie, goodbye. We’ll do something else later. Make that movie work.

The notion of sitting down going, ‘Let’s build a cinematic universe,’ might be a little off. ‘Let’s sit down and make a great movie and if people are interested in that, there are ways and ideas to tie them together going forward.'”

Marvel’s next film out of the gate is “Black Panther” which is slated to hit cinemas on February 16th.
 

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Disney now has its hands on Fox’s key franchises including “X-Men,” “Alien,” “Predator,” “Avatar,” “Die Hard,” “Planet of the Apes,” “Kingsman” and “Fantastic Four” (which is listed in the press release). Disney now also controls the full rights to all “Star Wars” films with the previously Fox-owned 1977 original likely to go back to Disney’s Lucasfilm – meaning theatrical re-releases and a potential home video version of the original theatrical cut.
 

Doctor Omega

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Disney Chief On “Deadpool” & R-Rated Films


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In the wake of this morning’s official announcement about The Walt Disney Company acquiring the assets of 20th Century Fox, there has been many questions regarding all the details of what that will entail.

One of the most common questions however is what the acquisition means for the future of adult-oriented movies from the studio. Disney previously released adult-targeted films through its Touchstone Pictures, Buena Vista and various other labels, but ditched that several years ago in favor of pursuing only four-quadrant family friendly tentpole blockbusters. Mel Gibson’s “Apocalypto” was the last R-rated film from the studio when it was released back in 2006.

20th Century Fox on the other hand, though offering some family titles, mainly focuses on blockbusters and adult fare including plenty of R-rated films such as the “Deadpool,” “Alien” and “Predator” franchises. Speaking in the wake of the announcement today, Disney CEO Bob Iger says there may be potential for R-rated films to continue at Disney and specifically brought up “Deadpool”:

“It (Deadpool) clearly has been and will be Marvel branded. But we think there might be an opportunity for a Marvel-R brand for something like Deadpool, as long as we let the audiences know what’s coming, we think we can manage that fine.”

“Deadpool 2” is currently set for release on June 1st 2018 and there’s not expected to be any change there, but further projects in the works like “Deadpool 3” and “X-Force” are uncertain at this point.
 

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So I'm guessing this is why they've been holding off all announcements about "Phase 4" other than the line "things will be very different". Presumably Phase 4 will include Fantastic Four (which would make me very happy) and an explosion of mutants (about which I have mixed feelings).
 

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Marvel Chief Teases Thanos’ Dark Actions



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First teased five years ago in “The Avengers,” Marvel Studios has been building up the threat of Thanos across multiple films now – so much so that one wonders if Josh Brolin’s mo-cap character can live up to the hype.

Speaking at Comic-Con Experience in Brazil recently, Marvel Studios’ Kevin Feige says that the purple-skinned character will shock audiences right from the start of “Avengers: Infinity War” by committing a heinous act of some kind:

“You know, we’ve been teasing Thanos since the very first Avengers film. Remember the end of Avengers, the very end of the movie he turns around in the chair and you realize something bad is coming. We’ve been teasing him for years and the trick is when you tease something for that long you have to deliver. So, within the first five minutes of Infinity War people will understand why Thanos is the biggest and baddest villain in the history of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.”

“Avengers: Infinity War” and the upcoming fourth “Avengers” film will serve the climax of ten years of buildup across nearly twenty films. It opens in cinemas in May.
 

Doctor Omega

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Rotten Tomatoes Denounces “Panther” Haters


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An online user going by the name of ‘Down with Disney’s Treatment of Franchises and its Fanboys’ has vowed to deliberately deflate and taint the Rotten Tomatoes audience score for the upcoming Marvel Studios release “Black Panther”.

This appears to be the same user who took credit for the RT audience score for “Star Wars: The Last Jedi” which had the worst Rotten Tomatoes audience score of any film in the franchise – even as critics and the CinemaScore results for it were high. While that was an apparent case of spambots, this is more a concerted ground effort trying to enlist like-minded people to help out.

Whoever they are, they have started a Facebook page (now defunct) to organise its community to take action and sabotage the score due to their claims of Disney using corporate manipulation to create “falsified bad press for the DCEU”. They also seem to be leaning politically to the right with their boards filled with plenty of ‘SJW’ and minority bashing comments veering into hate speech before it was taken down.

Rotten Tomatoes has responded to the threat, saying in a statement:

We at Rotten Tomatoes are proud to have become a platform for passionate fans to debate and discuss entertainment and we take that responsibility seriously. While we respect our fans’ diverse opinions, we do not condone hate speech. Our team of security, network and social experts continue to closely monitor our platforms and any users who engage in such activities will be blocked from our site and their comments removed as quickly as possible.”

The Ryan Coogler-directed film is expected to open in the $150 million range at this point, buoyed by recent stellar online reaction from early media screenings. The film opens in cinemas everywhere on February 16th.
 

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James Mangold Doesn’t Like Credits Stingers


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They may not have invented them, but Marvel Studios has certainly become synonymous for ‘credits stingers’ – the extra scenes attached within or after the end credits of its films.

Sometimes these are standalone scenes with a joke context, sometimes its a scene setting up a potential sequel to the film its attached to, but one thing unique to the Marvel films have been stingers setting up films in other franchises.

One person who is not a fan of them though is “Logan” filmmaker James Mangold. Appearing at Audi’s 2018 Writers Guild Association Beyond Words Panel in Los Angeles, Cinema Blend reports that Mangold went off on those sequences and labelled them an ’embarrassing’ aspect of modern filmmaking:

“The idea of making a movie that would f–king embarrass me, that’s part of the anaesthetizing of this country or the world. That’s further confirming what they already know and tying in with other f–king products and selling them the next movie while you’re making this movie, and kind of all that s–t that I find really f–king embarrassing.

Like, that audiences are actually asking for scenes in end credits when those scenes were first developed for movies that suck, so they put something extra at the end to pick up the scores when the movie couldn’t end right on its own f–king feet.

“Now we’ve actually gotten audiences addicted to a f–king bonus in the credits. It’s f–king embarrassing. It means you couldn’t land your f–king movie is what it means. Even if you got 100,000 Twitter addicts who are gambling on what f–king scene is going to happen after the fucking credits it’s still cheating.

It’s just cheating, but there’s all sorts of bad habits like that that f–king horrify me, man, that have become de rigueur in the way we make movies and I think the fear of being one of them that did that end then everyone’s patting me on the back and I feel like s–t inside because I know I cheated, is probably the greatest thing that scares the shit out of me.”

Mangold himself has previously participated in a post-credits scene – one at the end of his Fox & Marvel film “The Wolverine” which loosely tied into “X-Men: Days of Future Past”. Mangold may have more words to say on this as in a month he’s up for Oscar consideration for the best adapted screenplay award for “Logan”.
 

Doctor Omega

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Sony Exec Change Prompts Sale Speculation


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Sony Corporation saw its stock price surge yesterday with the news that Chief Executive Kaz Hirai is stepping down and will be succeeded by Chief Financial Officer Kenichiro Yoshida.

This changing of the guard has been seen as a signal that Sony might do a 20th Century Fox and potentially sell off its entertainment assets to refocus on their core consumer base (in Sony’s case home electronics).

Insiders at the studio say there’s been no discussion of a sale and the company plans to: “continue to look for opportunities to grow its film and television business”.

Hirai has been a fierce advocate for Sony’s entertainment business, whereas Yoshida is more cautious and focused on numbers. He reportedly sees Sony as a technology company and “doesn’t regard any part of Sony’s business as a sacred cow.”
 

Doctor Omega

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Comcast Could Still Beat Disney To Fox


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A new report over at CNBC suggests that communications giant Comcast could top Disney’s $52.4 billion offer for 20th Century Fox.

The report says that negotiations are technically still open and no decision has been made by Comcast on a topping bid yet, but Disney is reportedly already preparing itself for a Comcast topping bid and considering responses in case.

Comcast executives suggested to Murdoch last year they would be willing to pay significantly more for Fox’s assets than what Disney was offering and such an offer could persuade enough FOX shareholders to vote against Murdoch who chose Disney over Comcast due to regulatory concerns.
 
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