Review BLAKE'S 7: THE WAY BACK - Episode 01

Doctor Omega

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Doctor Omega

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Hard-hitting stuff.

The story, and particularly the charges against Blake, would surely, almost certainly be toned down now, were the series ever to be rebooted.

Along with the obligatory gender changes. :emoji_alien:

As it is such an atypical episode, plus having to set up at least part of the whole format it has some hard work to do, but acquits itself well, putting our poor hero up a tree with stones being thrown at him.

For all that it achieves....

A sterling

7 out of 10.
 
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Doctor Omega

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Yes, it was well made drama, regardless of the sci-fi setting. I think programme makers today could learn a lot from the conviction with which this was made. All the characters are taking events seriously. The stakes are high.

Not one quip. Not one funny line. Not one smart Alec comment. Blake is deeply in trouble and he knows it.

The casual way in which his enemies plot and agree to destroy his life is chilling in it's blandness.

Good writing and good, top quality, experienced actors.

I doubt that that combination would be a component in any remake/reboot/"re-imagining" of this opening episode. :emoji_alien:

Not when there is a zingy, smart-arsed, tension-destroying one liner that can be thrown into the script and badly delivered by some young actor who is not as talented as he/she thinks they are.

I also find it interesting that Michael Keating plays Vila in a slightly different way than he ever did again. Almost slightly sinister?
 
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ant-mac

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A gritty start, and a clever one, tarnishing the hero with child molestation charges. It was a lie of course, but why did The Federation think that the oppressed masses would readily believe it of Blake?
Also the FX are no where near as bad as legend would have it.
The scene of Blake and Ravela crossing the wasteland with the Dome City behind them is very good for BBC tv in the 70's.
Must take a point off for the silly ease at which Varon obtains the hospital records from Havant without disguising his voice!. Initially I remember being shocked at Varon and Maja's casual deaths at the end. The first of many surprises in store during this series. As usual the costuming for a BBC series is good. I suppose this is a sort of costume drama set in the future. The Federation guards creepy black uniforms were great, they just look totally sinister.
9/10
NOTE TO NEW SAGES
--the tradition is to mark each episode out of 10, so Brimfin can do his end of series statistical analysis. It's not obligatory, whatever you wish on that count is fine.
I've always marked everything out of 5. Every film and every episode or complete serial of every TV series I own.

So all Brimfin has to do is double my score to fit it into his system of analysis. :emoji_relaxed:
 

Brimfin

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Not sure if this is where I should reply but I do plan to join up with you all on reviewing BLAKE'S 7. I just need time to watch the first episode and then do my review. I don't plan to look at the other reviews until I post mine so that I won't be influenced by others' opinions. That's the way I've always done it. Afterward, I'll read the other reviews and possibly compare notes. I'll be watching STAR COPS as well. Looking forward to hopefully an interesting time.
 

Cloister56

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Ok so straight off the bat we have the intro.
The theme tune is epic, inspiring and sinister.
The images we see, a dome, a pixel image of someone in pain, I think a camera and then a trooper shoots us before a face appears with eliminate below it. All very interesting and tie in nicely with a lot of the themes in the episode, surveillance, torture and brain washing and an oppressive regime.

Sadly I do think the intro is slightly impaired by the Monty Pythonesc spaceship. I don't know how it looked back then but it looks awful, and seeing as they have pretty good models for the prison ship London later in the episode it seems odd they didn't do it with models.

The plot is very well structured. By Blake having no memory we get to naturally discover things with him.
It also explains why the rebels take such a risk bringing a new comer to their meeting, he has been a important member before.
It always seems odd in movies and TV shows why the hero gets to infiltrate the enemy so close to the big event and after having only joined the group yesterday.
Roj Blake is instantly likeable, he is inquisitive but not prepared to take peoples word on things. He is instantly established as having a bit of a rebellious streak. Now free of the suppressant drugs he raises objection to going outside but goes along with it without much fuss.

Blake's memories breaking through repeat through the episode. They are powerful images and work well. I do wonder why the trooper with the sledgehammer starts walking backwards after hitting Blake.

And who's that following them in the distance? It's Kellman from Revenge of the Cybermen (Jeremy Wilkin).
At first I assumed he was a member of the federation tailing the rebels. But on arrival to the meeting it is revealed he is a rebel. (Including being the most polite rebel ever, "We are going to start the meeting now, If you could come over here and make a group")
This deflected my suspicion so when he turned out to really be a traitor I was surprised, clever stuff.

The rebels generally come across as a very British resistance group (makes me think of Father Ted "Down with this sort of thing, steady now") clapping politely to Foster's speech. But they do show their ruthless side having planted evidence incriminating Blake, they won't take No for an answer.

Then there is the bad guys. I don't know if it was an active decision but by calling them the "Federation" calls to mind Star Trek. I tend to think of a Federation as a benevolent regime so subverting this makes them a more real evil where it's citizens are probably kept in the dark.

When they do arrive at the meeting the troopers say nothing and casually gun down everyone.
It's a horrifying spectacle, there is nowhere to run. During all of this our "hero" hides, no attempt made to help. It's a realistic move, there was nothing he could do, but it is an interesting start to establish our central character.

The casual way in which his enemies plot and agree to destroy his life is chilling in it's blandness.
Yes they don't grandstand, cackle or twirl their moustache. It is a problem, they discuss the options and decide on a solution. You get the feeling it was item 4 on the agenda for that meeting. The routine nature of it makes it so much more powerful.

The decision to fabricate Blake as a child abuser is key element I feel. It's one of the worst crimes imaginable, it would give even his most staunchest allies pause and it destroys him as a potential figurehead for the resistance. It is also completely unrelated to his previous crimes of sedition and terrorism robbing it of any direct political power.
It also is another demonstration of the lengths the Federation will go to. They not only make these accusations but actually implant the memories of the events in some innocent children. It is a truly terrible act and is done as just a ways to a means.

The court room scene is a bit odd. It seems a computer makes the verdict. This is interesting as it would appear to be impartial and perhaps nullify the argument that the jury were swayed by the nature of the crime.
Interesting Tarrant turns up at the end, he was very concerned about his cover being blown. Seeing as Blake is later free to converse with visitors and fellow inmates it seems odd he would expose himself. Perhaps he just couldn't resist.

We are introduced to 2 more characters. Vila Restal (who gets a few very quotable lines) and Jenna Stannis. She initially seems to be flirting a little with Blake, playing with his hair (and what hair it is) but then pushes his head as she tells him he's got no hope. She does soften later as her fear grows. I think she finds a little hope in his potential release.

The advocate Tel Varon and his wife Maja form a great team during this episode. They bounce ideas of each other naturally and show really affection for each other.

Must take a point off for the silly ease at which Varon obtains the hospital records from Havant without disguising his voice!.
Yes this was odd. They also overhear their superior Ven Glynd very easily. I initially thought they had some device they were using to intercept but they just stand a good 3 foot from the door, they don't even put a glass against it. I guess it could show the arrogance and feeling of complete security of senior officials that they don't even need to buy better more sound suppressing doors.

As the episode closes it seems at first that the Varon's won't be in time and will have to work to get Blake back. But as the London takes off we find that they have been killed by Tarrant. This is doubly cruel as they were established quickly as likeable characters and secondly Blake doesn't know what happened to them. For all he knows they just gave up.

Overall it is an excellent start to the series. It establishes a regime we can dislike, puts the main character in a deep dark hole but ends with him determined to get out.
9 dodgy paper spaceships probably better replaced with fairy liquid bottles strapped together, out of 10
 
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michaellevenson

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As Cloister 56 says the child molestation charge is shocking.
The character of Alta Morag is so damaged that she, even though looking like your favourite aunt, casually condemns innocent children to the nightmares of rape that will surely haunt them for years to come. OR is she just a civil servant doing her job?
 

ant-mac

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As Cloister 56 says the child molestation charge is shocking.
The character of Alta Morag is so damaged that she, even though looking like your favourite aunt, casually condemns innocent children to the nightmares of rape that will surely haunt them for years to come. OR is she just a civil servant doing her job?
Whilst I certainly don't support the actions of the authorities, it must be remembered that certain operatives inside the Federation are very probably highly-skilled when it comes to certain brainwashing techniques. Therefore, once the children had served their purpose and Blake was on his way to Cygnus Alpha, it's entirely possible they received further attention to remove the disturbing "memories" from their minds.
 

The Seeker

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I knew if Blake didn’t escape there’d be no show, but I was still on the edge of my seat. I was surprised at how easily the show killed off its characters.

Tel Varon seemed like a real sap, not knowing anything about his superiors. I find it hard to believe he’s never had a questionable case before. Are there no other rebels in the city?

The Federation shows itself to be cruel and ruthless, brainwashing children with such awful memories. They truly have no boundaries and no sense of decency.

The flashbacks were nicely done. The show, while obviously low budget, looked good enough to suck you in. It was well-paced and the stakes were high. Overall a good first episode. I can’t really add to anything that’s already been said.
 
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ant-mac

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I knew if Blake didn’t escape there’d be no show, but I was still on the edge of my seat. I was surprised at how easily the show killed off its characters.

Tel Varon seemed like a real sap, not knowing anything about his superiors. I find it hard to believe he’s never had a questionable case before. Are there no other rebels in the city?

The flashbacks were nicely done. The show, while obviously low budget, looked good enough to suck you in. It was well-paced and the stakes were high. Overall a good first episode. I can’t really add to anything that’s already been said.
If there were any other rebel in the city or any other city, the Federation's security forces would've probably dealt with them in the same manner as we saw in this episode.

And we have no idea Tel Varon had not been through the brainwashing process himself.

The Federation authorities don't mess around.
 

ant-mac

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That was an interesting beginning. I just wish we'd been given more time than less than 24 hours to watch, rewatch, take notes and write a decent review about a brand new show.

Anyway. The story has great potential. I'm not exactly overwhelmed by the premise, but it has possibilities. The thing that bugs me about tyrannies in general and virtuous rebels is that one is supposed to assume that if someone is a "rebel" or part of a "resistance" they're necessarily the heroes. The fact is, we still know very little about this universe and how it works.

OK, OK, I can see that the "Federation" is doing pretty nasty things, particularly in the area of brainwashing and framing an innocent person. But we still don't know if the system is structurally rigged, or this is just a conspiracy involving a few corrupt public agents. After all, the prosecutor that accuses Blake goes dig the truth and the truth he finds! and he seems convinced that he has evidence to prevent Blake from being sent to jail elsewhere. For all intents and purposes, the system works. Or does it?

Well, not for the prosecutor and his wife, as they are both killed. And Blake, is sent to a prison planet of the sorts. And in jail awaiting transport, he meets the characters I'll call Elegant Lady and Mr. Con Artist (sorry, I don't know the names and I didn't find a list with the actors and characters' names in the opening thread).

Again, it's true the Federation (or some Federation faction or some rogue administrator, or the local version of the Mafia,or Blake's grandmother...) does nasty things, but usually in evil empire X heroic rebels stories the empire does evil and nasty things to the rebels and to innocent people and that's enough to justify their status as "the evil ones" (yes, I'm looking at you, Star Wars.)

The problem is this: Why does the resistance fight the empire? Because the empire does nasty things to the resistance and collaborators. And why does the empire do nasty things to the resistance and collaborators? Because the resistance is constantly attacking them! So methinks if either the empire stopped doing nasty things or the resistance stopped resisting, all would be fine.

This is very different from reality. In reality, opposing groups have different views of how things are run, so resistance or no resistance they'll do their thing. Say one group wants the means of production to be in the hands of the state and another that supports private enterprise. None is necessarily evil, and nasty things might result if there's a guerrilla or civil war, but that's a natural consequence of the conflict.

And there's more. We live in a democracy (whatever your country is). But we might be horrified if we knew all the nasty things our legitimately-elected government would do to maintain said democracy. Sometimes it']s tough but fair, sometimes fatal and totally unfair. But how the secret intelligence services of modern democracies work.

And another thing that called my attention is the use of the old cliché of making the good guys nice and likable, and the bad guys faceless and dehumanized. But I won't fall for that! Oh, and the bad guys wear all black! Right.

Some time ago I expressed to Michael some reservations about adapting to British shows because of cultural differences. Michael seemed to find it a joke that I cold suggest what he interpreted as Blake´s 7 being too British. So, is it too British? Well, long story short... Yep. The accent is unmistakable. And their manner of speaking and acting as well. I swear I was expecting that at any moment someone in the resistance would speak with (some) emotion: "for Her Majesty!"

Speaking of emotions, everyone is so polite and collected. Even when Blake is supposed to be getting desperate being framed as a pedophile (urgh!), he doesn't lose his composure. He keep his phlegm (not the mucus!) intact all the way.

Once I was speaking with my cousin how I love cats and she said dogs are more affectionate. I objected. Cats are just as affectionate if you know how to look, if you understand their subtleties and quiet manners. Her answer: "Nah! That's too British for me. I prefer dogs." So, in other words, cats are British, while Latinos are... dogs. Mutts actually. But we do have fun.

What I really would like to see is a big twist. Say Blake is really a Federation Agent, or the resistance proves to be much nastier than we assumed. Notice that the rebels threatened to frame Blake for their activities, doing much like what the Federation ended doing to him. There are many possible plots that could subvert the good vs. evil notion.

Let's see what happens next.
Less than 24 hours?

You've got a whole week to watch it.

Or at least as much of that week as you need.
 

The Seeker

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If there were any other rebel in the city or any other city, the Federation's security forces would've probably dealt with them in the same manner as we saw in this episode.

And we have no idea Tel Varon had not been through the brainwashing process himself.

The Federation authorities don't mess around.
True. The only reason they didn’t kill Blake was because he was a figurehead, of sorts.
 

ant-mac

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I know that a new coordinator means new coordinating rules. But typically after announcing the winner we always had 5 to 7 days to begin watching the show. This would give time for people to buy the DVD, find an alternate source, download the show, etc, and also give time for people who missed the announcement to join the discussion in timely manner. Therefore, I only worried about watching the show once the winner was official, not before. Hence, less than 24 hours.

OK, now rereading your reply you']re talking about the week ahead, so, let me organize my thoughts. In my experience when an episode is announced for some particular day, it is much better to reply on that day or the next. When this happens, people read it and participate more intensely. if you reply, say three days later, the novelty is sort of gone and the response is not as good. At least that's how things used to be.with us.

So, between the whole Star Cops imbroglio, viewing the episode, and writing some resemblance of a review, here I am at a little past 1 A.M. still involved with IMDF, which has lasted a couple hours already... Fortunately we have a holiday until Wednesday (Carnaval) so I don't have an early meeting or something tomorrow morning.
However you wish to organize your time, or at whatever stage you wish to participate, the point is you still have up to a week if you should need it. Plenty of time to watch and review a single episode of a TV series.

By the way, although the Federation may well be depicted as tyrannical, what makes you think the rebels are virtuous? You've only encountered one small group so far.

And the reason that everyone is so polite and collected is that they're all doped up to the gills with suppressants. That's why Blake went without food and drink for 36 hours in the beginning. Although by the end, he'd been brainwashed and drugged - yet again.

As for British accents... So? British accents, American accents, Australian accents, French... So long as you can understand what's being said, that;s the main thing.

And I doubt the monarchy still exists by that point in time.
 

Gavin

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OK - episode 1 finished! I don't think I've actually ever seen the first episode before (or if I have its so long ago that I'd forgotten it). In fact, I believe that most of what I've seen before is from the final season, and my knowledge of the first season is based on the novelisation of 2 or 3 episodes that I've still got on my bookshelf somewhere.

It's certainly an interesting start. Not much to get any real idea what the ongoing show will be about. We still haven't met the eponymous "7" (at least not all of them - I did recognise a couple). I like that they spent the first episode just doing some basic world building, giving us some background on Blake, and the idea of the Federation as "tyrannical government suppressing the valiant rebels". How much of that turns out to be later true I'm not sure. More modern shows have a tendency in the first episode to set the basic premise, and get "the team" together, finishing with them heading off on their ongoing series mission. I like that they haven't rushed into that straight away.

Blake seems a bit ... easily influenced? in this episode. I suppose that's justified given that he's had his memories adjusted and has been consuming drugs with his food and drink for some time now. The girl at the beginning suggests that a day and a half should get rid of them but its likely that some level of influence exists for longer. I thought of this when they first suggested Blake go outside and Blake says "you realise going outside is a category 4 crime?" which seems pretty serious (I guess it could just be a misdemeanour but it certainly doesn't come across that way), but then he just shrugs and agrees to go. There's nothing to suggest any reason he thinks what they've got to say is so important that he (who believes himself to be a law abiding citizen) would so casually break the law.

The rebels also come across a bit careless for not posting any sort of guard while they're having an illegal meeting. But again it makes some sense as they're trying to organise civil disobedience and they don't seem to expect any sort of serious response by the police/military. But given that Foster seemed to know that the government had killed Blake's brother and sister, he should have had some idea of what they were capable of.

But they do show their ruthless side having planted evidence incriminating Blake, they won't take No for an answer.
That was an interesting approach, especially given that they were later suggested to be aiming at civil disobedience and surprised when they were shot rather than just arrested.

Once Blake is captured the next steps follow a fairly logical (if scary) process. Frame Blake with an abhorrent crime so that any followers will disregard him forever. The idea of implanting children with memories of abuse is real nightmare fuel. When watching older shows I often like to imagine what changes would be made if a modern remake were made (following the same storyline) and I would expect that a modern version would have footage of one or more of the children testifying (which as a parent I was thankful to be spared).

Whilst I certainly don't support the actions of the authorities, it must be remembered that certain operatives inside the Federation are very probably highly-skilled when it comes to certain brainwashing techniques. Therefore, once the children had served their purpose and Blake was on his way to Cygnus Alpha, it's entirely possible they received further attention to remove the disturbing "memories" from their minds.
That possibility does exist but there's nothing in the episode to suggest it (unless it gets mentioned later) and I would have thought that removing those memories would provide an opportunity for an investigator to identify their false testimony. Given the Federation's apparent ruthlessness, I can well believe that they would have no issue with leaving 3 children (probably poor/lower class) with horrific memories just to ensure an airtight case.

But we still don't know if the system is structurally rigged, or this is just a conspiracy involving a few corrupt public agents.
That's a good point and may make more sense. But if that's the case then it seems clear that those "few corrupt public agents" are operating at the highest levels of government.

The problem is this: Why does the resistance fight the empire? Because the empire does nasty things to the resistance and collaborators. And why does the empire do nasty things to the resistance and collaborators? Because the resistance is constantly attacking them! So methinks if either the empire stopped doing nasty things or the resistance stopped resisting, all would be fine.
It seemed to me that the idea was that some of the outer worlds are trying to secede from the Federation and become independent, while the Federation wants them to remain part of the Union. If that's the case its not unlike the US Civil War where both sides had what they believed to be good reasons for their positions, resulting in a war to keep the Union together or separate it (depending on which side you were on). So in that analogy, the rebels are the Confederates (but without the issue of slavery making one side seem right or wrong). It will be interesting to see how that theme develops over the series.

Initially I remember being shocked at Varon and Maja's casual deaths at the end.
I was surprised by that too. I knew they wouldn't succeed in getting Blake released, but I thought they'd hang around for an episode or too trying to prove the conspiracy before being disposed of. But without any warning they were gone.

So that's my initial thoughts. Overall I enjoyed it and would give it an 8 out of 10.
 

ant-mac

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Sure, but as I said, a couple of days after the episode thread is created the entire conversation will probably not be as relevant. In many cases a late publication might go unnoticed, as people tend to move on to their personal affairs and only come back to the site when it's time for the following episode.
And as I said, however you wish to organize your time, or at whatever stage you wish to participate, the point is you still have up to a week if you should need it. It's up to each individual to for themselves as to how to approach each week's view and review timetable.
Well, I can't know if there are even more rebels besidesbthe ones we've seen. For all I know the Federation could've crushed the entire resistance right there.
As that particular plot-point was shown to be an important central issue throughout the pilot episode, that would be a rather illogical conclusion to reach. Besides, you can and do know that's not the end of the rebellion. Whether you watch it on TV, DVD, the internet or read the novelizations, that much information - and often a bit more - is provided to set the basic scene for the reader or the viewer without providing any major spoilers.
Why I think the Federation us evil and the rebels are virtuous? I don't really think that. After all, a couple of rebels eventhreatened to frame Blake if he didn't go along. So that's not what virtuous people would do.
Exactly.

B7 is not black and white. It's more shades of grey - with streaks of black.
But *in comparison* to the Federation, the writers want us to think the rebels are saints! Because, come on, brain-washing kids to make them believe they were molested by the man the Federation wants to incriminate, come on, that's a new low.
Watch on...

You'll soon learn the fallacy of that type of thinking.
And there are other details: the Federation guards all wear black, which makes them sinister. The rebels are friendly, polite, show good English manners, we can see their faces (whereas the Federation guards hide behind masks, dehumanizing them and erasing their individuality), the rebels have names, while the guards don't, Blake is a nice guy, and the Federation does nasty things to him, and killed several unarmed rebels. The rebels would have to be really really rotten to come close to what the Federation did.
It's true that the Federation guards don't look like baby-sitters, but then they're not meant to. Many uniforms - factual or fictional - are black. It's a highly practical colour for a multi-purpose uniform. Of course in the STAR WARS, the storm troopers mostly wear white - and they still look sinister.

As for rotten rebels... keep watching.
Yes, pronunciation in 1960s and 1970s shows used to be pretty accessible. Now characters are made to sound more streetwise, So it could be more difficult to understand them. I remember Life on Mars was a show I never got 100%. I have little experience with Australian. As for French, as long as it's not Quebequois or Algerian, I'm OK.
Yes, clear, concise communication is not as common as it once was.
By the way, monarchy existed 1000 years ago, even 2000 years for that matter, so it's perfectly reasonable to assume it'll last as an institution yet another 1000.
I was not referring to a factual history, I was referring to a fictional future within a specific fictional universe.

In any case, I was not speaking in absolutes, which is why I said...
And I doubt the monarchy still exists by that point in time.
I'm finger typing on my cell. I thought my reply had disappeared so I rewrote it. But now I see, there it is!
No worries.

I decided to bring it all together in one post, so you could find all my responses in one place.

A sort of one-stop post.
 

ant-mac

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I'm basing my observations on what is shown in the episode. For all we know, maybe that's the end of the resistance. maybe Blake will start a new resistance now or years later. Maybe Blake dies and the guy from your avatar takes over years later. Several things make sense.
Some things make more sense than others.
I'm sure newcomers will appreciate the least spoilers as possible. This is why I try to avoid news articles, commentary or trailers precisely because with the intent to advertise producers often say too much, releasing key elements of the plot. I hope the thread of each episode will be spoiler free from anything shown after said episode. There's no reason to speak of future events here, as you can start a new thread and post all the spoilers you want there.
When it comes to spoilers, I expect everyone has their own personal opinion or perspective on the matter.

Personally, I've always liked them. I find they add to my enjoyment.

However, each to their own.
Once again I ask you not to infer what will happen later. I'd much rather learn that the rebels are bad watching the show, not because someone told me as you just did.
I just pointed out the fallacy of thinking in absolutes.
Oh, you are saying that in the Blake's 7 universe logic monarchy would be unlikely? So, that's another spoiler then? Great. I'm sure you understand that watching the show with other traditional fans is quite a different thing from watching it with people who don't know the first thing about the show and would like to enjoy it the same way you did when you watched it and equally knew nothing about it.
And what spoiler would that be?

I said...
And I doubt the monarchy still exists by that point in time.
That's an opinion, not a spoiler.

And like you, I based my opinion on what was shown in the episode.

Just out of curiosity, do you often suffer from sprains or strains?
I realized then that posting several little posts each with a reply for one comment in a series of threads was not the best approach and I avoid that whenever I can, but in that case it was inevitable because of the cell phone thing. But when I use my desktop computer, as I'm doing now, I'll post all comments in the same thread. I believe that's the most user-friendly method.
No worries.
 

ant-mac

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You're completely right about this. Some TV writers are brilliant and others seem to be morons. I've seen them all. So, we have no way of knowing that in advance.

I think a reader is meant to be exposed to a book or movie as the work of art unfolds. I understand that nowadays it seems to make sense for trailers to give away the main twists of a movie, or in case of a movie, all the best jokes. But that really hurts my enjoyment of the movie or show. So, if you']re in doubt, I advise you to err on the side of caution. the new viewers will appreciate it, I'm sure.

That's the thing of fiction. Both possibilities happen in fiction writing. Some stories are about black and white good versus evil, while others are about shades of grey. Discovering which is which, so we can make up our own minds which one the show is instead of having someone giving their interpretation to us to begin with is one of the aspects of the fun of watching something.

the information monarchy is unlikely in this future timeline.

If your opinion is based on information show after the pilot, then it's not just opinion, but information as well. And in my opinion, nothing shown in the pilot gives any indication of either way, except for the fact there is a "Federation." But the "Federation" could be at war with an "Empire" for all we know, or have a tense relationship with it. We'll learn that eventually.


Well, if it's based on the episode there's no problem there. Personally I thought that there's so much the pilot doesn't say that many scenarios are still possible, even if not probably.

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by strains and sprains.
My comment that I doubt a monarchy is likely by that point in time was not information, it was an opinion.

That is why I said I doubted. There was no certainty, because it was not information. I made that perfectly clear to anyone with reasonable powers of reading and comprehension.

And as I've previously said, it was based upon my viewing of the pilot episode. I also made that perfectly clear to anyone with reasonable powers of reading and comprehension.

My comment about sprains and strains refers to your habit of jumping to conclusions.
 
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