Controversial The Mandela Effect
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Doctor Omega
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My Very Own Mandela Effect Mystery....
I seem to have stumbled on my very own Mandela Effect mystery.
It's a tv show that seems to have vanished from existence completely.
In the late 1970's, I would say around about the time that Leela or Romana 1 was with the good Doctor, I remember a regular announcement on the late night BBC1 that "Over on BBC2 now is another episode of THE HELLFIRE CLUB".
As this was being announced the title card was of a very Victorian looking gentlemen, looking very serious, perhaps holding a gothic shaped candelabra. He had a very typical moustache of the era and I seem to remember there a special effect glow of fire in his eyes in this static picture.
I also remember glimpses of this show as my dad changed the channels. It was alternatively either very stuffy and pompous or occasionally nervous Victorian gentlemen exchanging ghost stories. A different story per episode told by one of the members.
It was a spooky show, done with that historical style that the BBC were so good at.
I just conducted a thorough look for this show.
There is nothing.
A 1961 film called THE HELLFIRE CLUB, starring Peter Cushing. But this wasn't it.
An Avengers episode, etc.
But none of these are what I saw.
The series - and it was a series - was made by the BBC on videotape and had the look and atmosphere of the much later GHOST LIGHT on Doctor Who, or the COUNT DRACULA tv show with Louis Jordan..
Wikipedia, You Tube, IMDB... All of my usual routes of enquiry have turned up absolutely nothing. (See next post)
I rarely stumble on a mystery that has no traces whatsoever.... only my memory.
But on this occasion I have, as Orac might say!
And it truly baffles and perplexes me.
The series having been quite a devilisly themed one isn't helping matters either! That's simply the icing on the cake!
Does anyone else remember this show at all?
I seem to have stumbled on my very own Mandela Effect mystery.
It's a tv show that seems to have vanished from existence completely.
In the late 1970's, I would say around about the time that Leela or Romana 1 was with the good Doctor, I remember a regular announcement on the late night BBC1 that "Over on BBC2 now is another episode of THE HELLFIRE CLUB".
As this was being announced the title card was of a very Victorian looking gentlemen, looking very serious, perhaps holding a gothic shaped candelabra. He had a very typical moustache of the era and I seem to remember there a special effect glow of fire in his eyes in this static picture.
I also remember glimpses of this show as my dad changed the channels. It was alternatively either very stuffy and pompous or occasionally nervous Victorian gentlemen exchanging ghost stories. A different story per episode told by one of the members.
It was a spooky show, done with that historical style that the BBC were so good at.
I just conducted a thorough look for this show.
There is nothing.
A 1961 film called THE HELLFIRE CLUB, starring Peter Cushing. But this wasn't it.
An Avengers episode, etc.
But none of these are what I saw.
The series - and it was a series - was made by the BBC on videotape and had the look and atmosphere of the much later GHOST LIGHT on Doctor Who, or the COUNT DRACULA tv show with Louis Jordan..
Wikipedia, You Tube, IMDB... All of my usual routes of enquiry have turned up absolutely nothing. (See next post)
I rarely stumble on a mystery that has no traces whatsoever.... only my memory.
But on this occasion I have, as Orac might say!
And it truly baffles and perplexes me.
The series having been quite a devilisly themed one isn't helping matters either! That's simply the icing on the cake!
Does anyone else remember this show at all?
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Doctor Omega
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From Wikipedia....
In popular culture
Literature
The Hellfire Club has appeared in numerous literary works:
In popular culture
Literature
The Hellfire Club has appeared in numerous literary works:
- Jerome K. Jerome cites it in his 1889 novel Three Men in a Boat.
- Ian Fleming in his 1955 novel Moonraker cites the "rare engravings of the Hell-Fire Club in which each figure is shown making a minute gesture of scatological or magical significance."
- In the Marvel Comics comic book series The X-Men, the Hellfire Club (1980) is an ancient club for the rich and hedonistic with Regency Era trappings that has branches all over the world, concealing the 'Inner Circle', a powerful and influential criminal organisation, that has played a prominent role in various story lines since its introduction during the Dark Phoenix Saga.
- Neil Gaiman named a debauched bar in the underworld "The Hellfire Club" in his comic book series The Sandman (1989–1996).
- Diana Gabaldon in her 1998 historical novella Lord John and the Hellfire Club.
- Lawrence Miles has referenced the Hellfire Club across several works. His 2002 novel The Adventuress of Henrietta Street features characters carrying on the Hellfire tradition, while the Faction Paradox audio plays, Sabbath Dei and The Year of the Cat, feature Francis Dashwood as a secondary character.
- Kage Baker in her 2007 short story "Hellfire at Twilight".
- Tom Knox in the 2009 novel The Genesis Secret.
- The Avengers episode "A Touch of Brimstone" (1966) had Steed and Mrs. Peel infiltrate a modern incarnation of the club whose pranks were expanding to destroy the government.
- The Blackadder the Third episode Ink & Incapability (1987) begins with a scene in which the Prince Regent mentions having drunk at the Naughty Hellfire Club the previous night.
- The Hellfire Club makes an appearance in "Deliverance", a 2014 episode of the TV show Sleepy Hollow.
- In the Gotham episode "The Blind Fortune Teller" (2015), the Hellfire Club is said to be a "Satanist cult that committed a string of ritual murders."
- The Hellfire Club is investigated on Season 6, Episode 8 of "Ghost Adventures", a television show on the Travel channel that investigates paranormal hotspots.
- The 1960 film The Hellfire Club starring Keith Michell and Peter Cushing depicts Dashwood's organisation.
- Hellfire Club, released on April 6, 2004, is the sixth album by German power metal band Edguy.[45]
- The 2001 audio play Minuet in Hell features the Hellfire Club led by a descendant of Sir Francis Dashwood.
- The Hellfire Club and Dashwood play a role in the comic Hellblazer.
Doctor Omega
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How can a tv series just vanish?
Doctor Omega
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Having said that, I wish STAR TREK DISCOVERY would. 
johnnybear
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Sorry can't help you I'm afraid, Doc! I know of the Hellfire club film but have never seen it sadly and of course the Avengers episode of 1965 with Peter Wyngarde as John Cleverly Cartney! Cartney being a name that Brian Clemens has used a few times in his shows, Avengers and Thriller's Man At The top of The Stairs!
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Doctor Omega
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I may possibly have solved the mystery. Just found a series called TALES OF MYSTERY & IMAGINATION. Made from 1966 to 1970. One of the episodes was called THE SUICIDE CLUB and the look and feel of the costumes, period setting, atmosphere, etc looks close to what I remember as a series called THE HELLFIRE CLUB.
Allowing for false or muddled memory, this is the nearest thing I have found to it so far, assuming that this episode was repeated in the late seventies. Perhaps numerous episodes of TOMAI were repeated and I got confused or something, thinking the title of one episode was the title of the whole series...
Or something.....
Tremendously thrilling Duel in 'Suicide Club' (1970)
Allowing for false or muddled memory, this is the nearest thing I have found to it so far, assuming that this episode was repeated in the late seventies. Perhaps numerous episodes of TOMAI were repeated and I got confused or something, thinking the title of one episode was the title of the whole series...
Or something.....
Tremendously thrilling Duel in 'Suicide Club' (1970)
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ant-mac
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STAR TREK DISCOVERY?Having said that, I wish STAR TREK DISCOVERY would.
What's that?
johnnybear
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I may possibly have solved the mystery. Just found a series called TALES OF MYSTERY & IMAGINATION. Made from 1966 to 1970. One of the episodes was called THE SUICIDE CLUB and the look and feel of the costumes, period setting etc looks close to what I remember as a series called THE HELLFIRE CLUB.
Allowing for false or muddled memory, this is the nearest thing I have found to it so far, assuming that this episode was repeated in the late seventies. Perhaps numerous episodes of TOMAI were repeated and I got confused or something, thinking the title of one episode was the title of the whole series...
Or something.....
Tremendously thrilling Duel in 'Suicide Club' (1970)
That looks like Brian Blessed's wife Hildegarde Neil to me in that port as well!
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johnnybear
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Robert Muller was one of the writers on the 1977 BBC series Supernatural as I recall!
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Doctor Omega
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Is this the thing causing all this Mandela Effect marlarky.......
How Does the Large Hadron Collider Work?
How Does the Large Hadron Collider Work?
johnnybear
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I've been saying that the Hadron Collider has been responsible for all the disruptions in our memories and weird paranoia as well! Odd that in Doctor Who's Castrovalva, the Master, as played by Anthony Ainley and not Mary Poppins mentions Hadron power lines being lethal to the touch back in a 1982 episode and also the powers he had acquired created a world of scholars and hunters who couldn't tell one way from another and the only one who could was Shardovan who had guessed the Portreeve's little secret! It's sort of similar to how some of us think there is an ulterior motive behind everything these days too!
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Doctor Omega
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The Mandela Effect: The year nobody died
johnnybear
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Bernard Cribbins died in 2005 and Gene Wilder has died twice, that I'm sure of!
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Doctor Omega
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It's only a bleedin' movie now!
Hurry and watch it before it turns out never to have existed in a few years.
ant-mac
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This will not do well in the cinema, but it will become a cult classic with a loyal fan base of sci fi fans and conspiracy theorists.View attachment 16943
It's only a bleedin' movie now!
Hurry and watch it before it turns out never to have existed in a few years.
Doctor Omega
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Yeah. Am kind of surprised it took so long for someone to make this.
ant-mac
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johnnybear
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A lot of people will not understand it's concept, but that's because they are part of the scenario! Unlike a few of us on here who were at the eye of the event top begin with!
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Doctor Omega
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How The Mandela Effect Has Been Brainwashing Everyone