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Doctor Omega

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In his book "LEONARD", Shatner says that the above car commercial was the last time that he ever saw Leonard, who never spoke to Shatner again - or wanted to see him,
 
chainsaw_metal1

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Interesting. I thought that they had completely buried the hatchet, after Nimoy appeared on Raw Nerve. But then, can you ever really be friends with someone like Shat?
 
Doctor Omega

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It seems that Nimoy had asked Shatner not to include any footage of him in a documentary the Shat was making, called "THE CAPTAINS", but Bill went and filmed him at a convention anyway. Leonard cut him dead after that.

In the book Shatner laments that their friendship could be ended by something that he saw as "trivial", something silly that could and should have easily been smoothed over and forgotten about, perhaps not realising that it may simply have been the straw that finally broke the camel's back?
 
chainsaw_metal1

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Doctor Omega said:
It seems that Nimoy had asked Shatner not to include any footage of him in a documentary the Shat was making, called "THE CAPTAINS", but Bill went and filmed him at a convention anyway. Leonard cut him dead after that.
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Slightly off topic, but that is a pretty good doc. Even if it follows along with the numerous projects Shat gets going to keep himself in the public eye, and remind everyone that he was, indeed, Kirk.
Doctor Omega said:
In the book Shatner laments that their friendship could be ended by something that he saw as "trivial", something silly that could and should have easily been smoothed over and forgotten about, perhaps not realising that it may simply have been the straw that finally broke the camel's back?
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Again, this seems to be a common occurrence with Bill. He does exactly as he pleases, no matter what anyone else thinks or wishes, and when there are repercussions, he's bewildered why he's being made the villain.
 
johnnybear

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Really it is a bit ridiculous to fall out with someone because he included a scene of you in his new documentary isn't it? I mean they're actors not men working in a beer factory or on the railways! It seems so petty to me! I can imagine people not liking the Shat because of his ego or his unfeeling comments he makes but that? It's like a friend including you in his family portrait and you saying don't photograph me or else!!! If the said person had a growth on his face or a bloodshot eye maybe you could get his drift but...
JB
 
Doctor Omega

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I have to agree that it does diminish Leonard slightly in my eyes. If you are going to finish with someone at least tell them beforehand that your very friendship is riding on you honouring this particular wish. Or tell them after the fact "I have finished with you because x, y or z was the last straw". But to fall absolutely silent and shut you out with no explanation or closure shows a side of Leonard that make all his books of sensitive poetry meaningless when you can do that to someone - even the Shat.


William Shatner On His Fallout with Leonard Nimoy | The Meredith Vieira Show



 
chainsaw_metal1

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I just rewatched the season one episode Court Martial, and it now dawns on me the real issue I have with the Abrams movies. The whole original argument used to plead Kirk's innocence is his many years of service, and how, as Kirk himself puts it, he has trained to not crack under the stresses of command. By the time he achieves the rank of Captain and command of the Enterprise, he is a seasoned veteran. Sure, he's still cocky and headstrong, and at times even arrogant, but he has years of service to back all of that up. Pine's Kirk is all of those things without the years of service. If TOS Kirk goes off the reservation, we know he can pull it off, because he's got the experience. When Pine does, it's because he has been handed his commission. Sure, he proves himself in the first film, but he still gets a promotion to Captain without earning it.

I still enjoy the Abrams films, warts and all. But that really paints redux Kirk as an entitled prick.
 
Doctor Omega

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Blimey..... They paid attention to continuity (the self-destruct wording) in those days!

When did such attention to detail stop mattering? (Hi there DISCOVERY!) :emoji_head_bandage:
 
Doctor Omega

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Harve Bennett was horrified when Paramount completely ruined any surprise by showing the ship blow up in the trailer, but they wouldn't listen to him.



 
Doctor Omega

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At the time I found it somewhat frustrating that the rapidly ageing original cast were only being used in one film every two to three years, when they still could have done regular tv specials. But I now realise that this was never going to happen with Shatner and Nimoy's fees or unwillingness to commit to a regular show again.

But I do treasure each of the films that they did manage to make. Especially when I look at what is released in Trek's name now.
 
chainsaw_metal1

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Doctor Omega said:
But I do treasure each of the films that they did manage to make. Especially when I look at what is released in Trek's name now.
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I have still never watched an episode of Discovery, but I think I would be hard pressed if someone asked me "Would you like to binge season one of Discovery or watch ST The Motion Picture and ST V back to back" which one I would choose.
 
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