Controversial Scientology
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Doctor Omega
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You Tube Video Removal:
On January 15, 2008, a video produced by the Church of Scientology featuring an interview with Cruise was posted on YouTube, showing Cruise discussing what being a Scientologist means to him.
The Church of Scientology said the video had been "pirated and edited", and was taken from a three-hour video produced for members of Scientology.
You Tube Video Removal:
YouTube removed the Cruise video from their site under threat of litigation.
After YouTube investigated this claim, they found that the video did not breach copyright law, as it is covered by the fair use clause.
It was subsequently reinstated on the site, and as of June 2015, the video has achieved over 10 million views.
YouTube has declined to remove it again, due to the popularity of the video, and subsequent changes to copyright policy of the website.
On January 15, 2008, a video produced by the Church of Scientology featuring an interview with Cruise was posted on YouTube, showing Cruise discussing what being a Scientologist means to him.
The Church of Scientology said the video had been "pirated and edited", and was taken from a three-hour video produced for members of Scientology.
You Tube Video Removal:
YouTube removed the Cruise video from their site under threat of litigation.
After YouTube investigated this claim, they found that the video did not breach copyright law, as it is covered by the fair use clause.
It was subsequently reinstated on the site, and as of June 2015, the video has achieved over 10 million views.
YouTube has declined to remove it again, due to the popularity of the video, and subsequent changes to copyright policy of the website.
Janine The Barefoot
Wacky Norwegian Woman
I believe, they have a "sliding" pay scale. The "Center" in Hollywood is the richest because the people they've recruited have the most cash to spend. I would imagine it's rather like the practice of "tithing" that many other religions have their "believers" adhere to.
Doctor Omega
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Tom's ramblings in that video only makes slightly more sense than me after four pints of cider - just before I fail to sit on the bar-stool properly and get told by the landlord that maybe I have had enough to drink now.
Was there no one there brave enough to say "Tom! You're talking rubbish!"?
Still, at least the dialogue was better than in "The Mummy" from all accounts.
Was there no one there brave enough to say "Tom! You're talking rubbish!"?
Still, at least the dialogue was better than in "The Mummy" from all accounts.
Doctor Omega
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duzit
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I'm so glad you made this post. I thought it was me, not understanding what the hell he was blabbing about. Thanks @Doctor Omega for convincing me that I wasn't the crazy...
Doctor Omega
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Tom would, no doubt, insist on trying to convince us that we were the crazy ones! 
I hope there is a season 2 of Scientology show on A&E. I loved the show, and I was happy to here how they broke it down. Plus it makes you wonder how many celebrities they have in there are getting jobs because of the church.
Doctor Omega
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List of celebrity Sciencetologists
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Scientologists
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Scientologists
Janine The Barefoot
Wacky Norwegian Woman
He lost me at "When I drive by an accident I know I'm the only one who can do something about it.".........
Seriously??????????
I can't believe we don't have a vomit emoji yet!!!!!
Just use the Money one with a green tongue.He lost me at "When I drive by an accident I know I'm the only one who can do something about it.".........
Seriously??????????
ant-mac
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That's actually quite an apt symbol for Scientology - on two levels.Just use the Money one with a green tongue.
It represents that it is both cash hungry and a parasitic disease...
Curiously enough, it appears Manson wouldn't have it any other way. He's stated in the past that he actually didn't want to be let out of jail, assuming he'd be the target of some other psycho who'd be seeking glory for being the one who killed Charles Manson. He has his followers inside, and is probably so acclimated to the life he couldn't function outside of it at this point. And I'm sure he simply views the parole hearings as a ritual joke that has to be gone through annually. He did a live show in the wayback with Geraldo Rivera (in Rivera's sensationalistic reporter persona he'd adopted back then), broadcast from his cell, and IMHO, Manson's crazy like a fox--he knew exactly what the viewers expected to see--good ol' Crazy Charlie--and acted the part to the hilt. I don't think he's suffering, at least any more than a person who's spending their life in prison can be said to suffer. And I don't think there's much fear of his ever being released.
Scientology--a cult that appears very silly to outsiders, and is taken passionately seriously by its devotees. Pretty much like every other religion, all of which began as what we today refer to as a 'cult'. The only difference is that when you're born within the bars you don't see them, and it looks bizarre when we see anyone else willingly locking themselves in (all the while insisting they're freer than we are), but at the end of the day, I agree, its particular lunacies look no more lunatic than any other religion's do when viewed objectively. That said, I'm definitely no fan of it.
Janine The Barefoot
Wacky Norwegian Woman
HPD.... that is the perfect response to this entire threads "existence" (and take that, TC!!!)
And DBs for an "almost" vomit emoji!!! 
When I first seen the smiley I thought it was throwing up. I had to do a double take.HPD.... that is the perfect response to this entire threads "existence" (and take that, TC!!!)
Doctor Omega
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Leah Remini: Tom Cruise is "Diabolical," Truly Evil
Leah Remini rose to fame as a no-nonsense, straight talking character on the terrible CBS sitcom King of Queens.
And, based on her latest comments about Tom Cruise, it doesn't sound as though this woman was a stretch for Remini to portray.
The actress, who will reunite with Kevin James this fall as a series regular on Kevin Can Wait, sat down this week for a Reddit AMA.
Asked at one point whether Cruise is a good person, Remini did not hold any opinion back.
"No! Just going to get straight to it, no!" she replied, expounding as follows:
"There is a public persona of the guy who looks at you directly in the eye and shakes your hand and hugs you and is an attentive person to you and there's the person behind the mask who is a completely different person."
In what way, exactly?
Remini tried to explain.
"Someone could say we all have that - what we are to the public and who we are behind the scenes," she said.
"But the people who are around Tom and work for Tom, not even people who are Scientologists, they will say he is diaboloical [sic]."
Remini, of course, has become as famous at this point for her connection to the Church of Scientology as she is for her career.
An ex member of that religious organization (for which Cruise is essentially a spokesman), Remini has broken free from the alleged cult and spoken out against it.
Frequently and passionately.
She said late last year, for example, that Scientology is full of rape and forced abortions.
The star made these stunning accusations as part of the A&E series Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath.
In this AMA, Remini noted that some folks she has worked with in the past might say she "can be an asshole," yet claimed it's a different story for Cruise who is one of the most high-profile members of the Church of Scientology.
Probably the most high profile.
"He's very similar to David Miscavige, they could be twins," she wrote, referencing the organization's leader.
A new season of Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath is on the way, one in which the host will once again delve into the dangers of her former religion.
She's talked previously about the child abuse and sexual harassment that takes place within in.
"Tom and most Scientologists, all Scientologists, are taught to believe that people like me are literally the devil, that we mean them harm," she told Larry King in December 2016 prior to claiming that the church is "defrauding people out of their lives."
In regard to her assessment of Cruise, the Church of Scientology said via statement to Us Weekly:
"Leah Remini has been obsessed with the leader of the Scientology religion and with Mr. Cruise for years, ever since she made a scene at Mr. Cruise's wedding when she couldn't get the seat she wanted.
"Remini is only commenting on these two prominent individuals to generate media coverage for herself and her hate campaign.
"Remini is bent on inciting hate and bigotry against a worldwide religion and its parishioners and she will stop at nothing to grab attention."
Leah Remini rose to fame as a no-nonsense, straight talking character on the terrible CBS sitcom King of Queens.
And, based on her latest comments about Tom Cruise, it doesn't sound as though this woman was a stretch for Remini to portray.
The actress, who will reunite with Kevin James this fall as a series regular on Kevin Can Wait, sat down this week for a Reddit AMA.
Asked at one point whether Cruise is a good person, Remini did not hold any opinion back.
"No! Just going to get straight to it, no!" she replied, expounding as follows:
"There is a public persona of the guy who looks at you directly in the eye and shakes your hand and hugs you and is an attentive person to you and there's the person behind the mask who is a completely different person."
In what way, exactly?
Remini tried to explain.
"Someone could say we all have that - what we are to the public and who we are behind the scenes," she said.
"But the people who are around Tom and work for Tom, not even people who are Scientologists, they will say he is diaboloical [sic]."
Remini, of course, has become as famous at this point for her connection to the Church of Scientology as she is for her career.
An ex member of that religious organization (for which Cruise is essentially a spokesman), Remini has broken free from the alleged cult and spoken out against it.
Frequently and passionately.
She said late last year, for example, that Scientology is full of rape and forced abortions.
The star made these stunning accusations as part of the A&E series Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath.
In this AMA, Remini noted that some folks she has worked with in the past might say she "can be an asshole," yet claimed it's a different story for Cruise who is one of the most high-profile members of the Church of Scientology.
Probably the most high profile.
"He's very similar to David Miscavige, they could be twins," she wrote, referencing the organization's leader.
A new season of Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath is on the way, one in which the host will once again delve into the dangers of her former religion.
She's talked previously about the child abuse and sexual harassment that takes place within in.
"Tom and most Scientologists, all Scientologists, are taught to believe that people like me are literally the devil, that we mean them harm," she told Larry King in December 2016 prior to claiming that the church is "defrauding people out of their lives."
In regard to her assessment of Cruise, the Church of Scientology said via statement to Us Weekly:
"Leah Remini has been obsessed with the leader of the Scientology religion and with Mr. Cruise for years, ever since she made a scene at Mr. Cruise's wedding when she couldn't get the seat she wanted.
"Remini is only commenting on these two prominent individuals to generate media coverage for herself and her hate campaign.
"Remini is bent on inciting hate and bigotry against a worldwide religion and its parishioners and she will stop at nothing to grab attention."
I truly think Reimi speaks the truth on this subject and celebrities.
Janine The Barefoot
Wacky Norwegian Woman
I agree completely and have a first-hand understanding of her comment about the faces that people present to the public and what people who truly know them see. It's freaking terrifying when you take it apart and examine the ramifications. If, for example, a couple gets a divorce everyone who knows them might believe that the wife (or the husband) was a jerk or an a-hole or whatever, when the truth inside the marriage is completely different. Being who you really are all of the time leaves you open to attack on any number of fronts. While those who have a "public" and "private" face walk away with everyone on their side because no one but the spouse knows anything different about them. It's sad and tragic but it's true. I have absolutely no hesitation whatsoever when I say that she's probably completely right about what she says regarding TC.
His second wife quite literally made a plan, got the assistance she needed and acted to escape that marriage with her child and she both safe and sound. Think about that. Having to make a plan of attack (or defense or whichever) to escape your marriage safe and sound with your child because your husband presents that much of a danger to both your lives. All you have to do is look at the lives of the kids he adopted with Nicole Kidman to know that the man is seriously messed up and given all the time he spends inside the "Church of Scientology" there's no way you can convince me that it hasn't played a part in who and what that man has become.
It's a cult, it's a danger to anyone inside of it (and has proven to be a very real problem for those who have left it as well) and as far as I'm concerned it's simply a bloody abomination.
His second wife quite literally made a plan, got the assistance she needed and acted to escape that marriage with her child and she both safe and sound. Think about that. Having to make a plan of attack (or defense or whichever) to escape your marriage safe and sound with your child because your husband presents that much of a danger to both your lives. All you have to do is look at the lives of the kids he adopted with Nicole Kidman to know that the man is seriously messed up and given all the time he spends inside the "Church of Scientology" there's no way you can convince me that it hasn't played a part in who and what that man has become.
It's a cult, it's a danger to anyone inside of it (and has proven to be a very real problem for those who have left it as well) and as far as I'm concerned it's simply a bloody abomination.