chainsaw_metal1
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I loved his reactions to her in The Pilot. "Human Alert! Should I put up an alert?" Or when she finally mentioned it being bigger on the inside, and he turns to The Doctor and says "We finally got there!"
This is my biggest issue with companions in the new era. For some reason (with Martha being the sole exception) they all have to be "forced" to leave. No one can just say "OK its been fun but its time for me to settle down now". It doesn't help that companions don't seem to travel with the Doctor anymore either. They just jump on board for a day trip somewhere and then back home again until next time.My biggest problem was the Doctor/Donna meta-crisis and her needing to have her memory erased of him. It made for some great drama, and it still affects me when I watch it, but it still makes me angry.
Everything you just said! I've especially grown weary of the "day trip" companions. Even Rose, who was up for just up and going away, still ended up visiting home every few episodes. The kicker of that one is when Doc 9 even makes a snarky comment about things getting "domestic". Just give him someone who wants to travel, and get them out there. Not stopping back home every few seconds to see if someone left the iron on.This is my biggest issue with companions in the new era. For some reason (with Martha being the sole exception) they all have to be "forced" to leave. No one can just say "OK its been fun but its time for me to settle down now". It doesn't help that companions don't seem to travel with the Doctor anymore either. They just jump on board for a day trip somewhere and then back home again until next time.
Well, I'd add Rory and Amy to Martha, and Jack, and River and Mickey come to think of it. And Sarah Jane declined another invitation to re-join Team Tardis. Guess my list of voluntary departees is longer than that of clingers. Which, given Donna's involuntary retirement, leaves just Rose.For some reason (with Martha being the sole exception) they all have to be "forced" to leave.
Plus, she was the only one who was never so in awe of him she couldn't chastise him for making mistakes! I thought she was great!The Doctor that wasn't a romantic love, but rather one of true friendship and mutual respect.
I tend to take Rory and Amy's leaving as forced - it was only when they were sent back in time to a place the TARDIS couldn't get to without difficulty that they decided to tell the Doctor not to come and get them - if that hadn't happened, the implication is that they'd have stayed with him. Jack was left behind initially and only stayed on earth after being picked up the second time because he'd spent a century on earth and had made a commitment to Torchwood - if he hadn't been left behind at the end of Parting of the Ways, would he have left by choice? Mickey left voluntarily, but I've always considered him more of a hanger-on than a true companion. He was only ever on board because of his relationship with Rose and once he (finally) understood that Rose wasn't interested he left. I take that as less a case of him leaving the Doctor/TARDIS and more about him leaving Rose. Finally, Sarah Jane was unwillingly left behind by the Fourth Doctor and it was only because she'd been left alone to rebuild her life that she decided not to travel further. The implication is that if the Fourth Doctor hadn't dumped her she wouldn't have left.Well, I'd add Rory and Amy to Martha, and Jack, and River and Mickey come to think of it. And Sarah Jane declined another invitation to re-join Team Tardis. Guess my list of voluntary departees is longer than that of clingers. Which, given Donna's involuntary retirement, leaves just Rose.
Thanks Carol. I think its also difficult to really quantify later companions like Amy & Rory, Clara, and now Bill, given that they seem to have the benefit of travelling with the Doctor as well as maintaining their home life. I suspect in a case like that its much harder to decide to stop travelling when compared with Classic Who companions whose travels with the Doctor precluded their "old" life with friends and family.@Gavin
Thanks for your detailed reply! I think we're simply at cross-purposes. I'm talking about our later views of the characters I'm talking about. Rory and Amy did an unspecified amount of going home between Tardis jaunts to the extent that they appeared to be aging excessively to stay-at-home friends. Possibly the only Doctor's chums who tried routinely to juggle real life and Tardis life - and of course it went pear-shaped in the end.
Jack did leave by choice as you agree, so did Micky, so did Sarah-Jane. I like the idea (magnificently brought home in School Reunion) that life after the Doctor is desirable, and sensible and really a little bit enviable. Especially for Sarah-Jane, who continues to save the world with just a clapped-out Citroen and a sonic lipstick!
I think someone complained about "damsel-in-distress" companions once, and now they all have to be these tough, mouthy brave people who think they're invincible. The only time it really worked is with Donna, because, while she still had those qualities, she also knew when there was danger, and to follow the Doctor's lead and do what he said.And it will be so disappointing, I think, if they are - once again - modern day suburbanites, who have little sense of wonder and who throw smart-arsed quips and jibes at the Doctor, instead of being like, you know, actually scared when something is about to kill them. That's not a weakness of character. It's just a very natural human reaction to very real jeopardy.
Because if the characters don't believe they are at risk, why should we believe it?
While the official announcement avoids the word “companion,
It seems the term "companion" has quietly been dropped from the official Doctor Who lexicon...
From now on it seems they will all be referred to as "friends" in any publicity or merchandise, etc. - as per the trailer.