Review Terminator: Dark Fate (2019)

Doctor Omega

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Linda Hamilton on this latest pile of .... movie.


http://www.darkhorizons.com/hamilton-talks-her-terminator-return-prep/



“There is a real gift in that so much time has passed, and that gives me so much more to explore with the character. Sarah Connor is the same person but I wanted to see how the difference in events have changed her and shaped her and send her forward. There was meat there. I didn’t want to just recycle the same idea. It’s a woman who has a different mission, a different story, so I wanted to see what we could do with that.

[Cameron] called me three times before I even called him back. The third time, he was like, ‘It’s about work,’ and I’m like, ‘Oh, hey, what’s up?’ But, even with that and his big sell, it took me weeks to decide that I really could go there and might have something new to say.”

“She’s a woman without a country. Her original mission has changed due to circumstances and she really doesn’t have a team anymore, she just has a thirst for vengeance, so that makes her very alone. She’s still a wildcard, but a wildcard without a real true mission is a lot more unpredictable. Basically very hard for her to find her humanity, so once again we get to take a journey on that level, to have some deep things that need to be rediscovered for her survival.”

Of course, one assumes if you put in the same hard work, you get the same results, so I went straight back into training really hard and it’s like, ‘Oh my god, you need hormones to put muscle on!’ So just starting with the basic cosmetics of the character and all of the things that I had to sort of include in my new reality as Sarah Connor.

But, really, it’s about building her backstory and figuring out where she’s been and who she is today. You have a character but so many things have impacted her in the last 30 years that it was like starting over, and yet, there is an echo of the younger Sarah Connor in everything that I had to create. But no, I worked damn hard. I spent a year-plus training really hard and working on her walk and exploring her deep sorrows and just so many elements, and more so, because there is a path there.

By the time we started, I felt ready, but a year-plus before that, I was pretty overwhelmed with a sense of obligation and duty and love for the character, just really trying to make sure that we honored the past and created something new for the future.”
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Doctor Omega

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I'm betting it was a combination of marriage to Cameron and starring in KING KONG LIVES!.

"She was a lovely lady, but always looked fed up!" said her Kong co-star, Brian Kerwin.......


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Doctor Omega

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I remember reading an old interview with Linda, where she was grumbling that the first Terminator film was meant to be Sarah's story, about her journey, and that, originally, all the press and publicity was supposed to have reflected all that - but that, in the event, all the press and publicity went to Arnold and that Arnold had happily gone along with that imbalance. I recall thinking that she had lost perspective with that interview. I think it was even before T2 had been made.

Maybe - just maybe - if Lance Henriksen or O.J. Simpson had been the Terminator, they could have spun it more that way and we'd have seen her in more of the first movie's publicity shots, but the minute they cast Arnie, that was his movie....


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In fact, googling the first film, there aren't many publicity shots of Sarah Connor and most are with Michael Beihn. I can see how she might have been envious, looking on askance at the media circus swarming around Arnold at the time.


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johnnybear

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Was she really married to James Cameron? And about the time travel line, I know she didn't travel into the future or the past in either film but maybe she does in the new one that or she is another version of her self in the near future and don't tell me she's the new baddie...please!!!
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Doctor Omega

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Yep, they were married for a time after falling in love during TERMINATOR 2 (He left Gale Anne Hurd for her). Here's a news item of the time on the break up of their marriage...... It seems he had turned his attentions to the young lady playing the grand-daughter of the old lady on TITANIC.






I don't think she is the baddie in the new film. But notice that
John Connor is nowhere in any of the publicity. And she speaks about "vengeance" in interviews for this crud, so suspect she is out to avenge his death.

The Terminator franchise is a right convoluted old mess. For me it ended with the finale of the third film, which worked fine for me in the same way that the finale of ALIEN 3 worked just fine for me (in a bleak, but hopeful way) and, like that film, I just wish they had left it there.



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Just checked and it turns out he married the Titanic co-star, Suzy Amis Cameron, and that they still seem to be married.....





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ant-mac

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Doctor Omega said:
Yep, they were married for a time after falling in love during TERMINATOR 2 (He left Gale Anne Hurd for her). Here's a news item of the time on the break up of their marriage......






I don't think she is the baddie in the new film. But notice that
John Connor is nowhere in any of the publicity. And she speaks about "vengeance" in interviews for this crud, so suspect she is out to avenge his death.

The Terminator franchise is a right convoluted old mess. For me it ended with the finale of the third film, which worked fine for me in the same way that the finale of ALIEN 3 worked just fine for me (in a bleak, but hopeful way) and, like that film, I just wish they had left it there.

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That's the problem with films and TV...

The show runners don't know when enough's enough.

I keep saying it, but every story needs a beginning, a middle and an end.
 
Doctor Omega

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Yes, I thought that ALIEN 3 made more sense than the second film in terms of what the odds really were against even just one Xenomorph.
Victory could be got, but the price would be high indeed. I thought that was more honest and satisfying than Sigourney having an Alien Queen hanging from her foot and not tearing her leg off, plus all those cannon-fodder Aliens in the second one!

In the same way, Judgement Day happening made more sense as there would surely be no bleak future for the Terminators to travel back from otherwise.
 
ant-mac

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I never understood the negative response to ALIEN 3. People didn't honestly expect that film series to have a happy ending did they?

And TERMINATOR 3 was the logical conclusion to that film series. Everything since then has just been a massive waste of time and money.
 
johnnybear

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The time travel convulusion of the fifth film making John Connor the baddie was different and yet we didn't really want it to be true but the film was explaining away the inconsistencies in the franchise I suppose and more! As to what this new one will mean is anybody's guess if we are to ignore 3, 4 and 5 to accept it, it better be good!!!
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ant-mac

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johnnybear said:
The time travel convulusion of the fifth film making John Connor the baddie was different and yet we didn't really want it to be true but the film was explaining away the inconsistencies in the franchise I suppose and more! As to what this new one will mean is anybody's guess if we are to ignore 3, 4 and 5 to accept it, it better be good!!!
JB
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Nah, I'll stick to the first three.

I saw 4 and 5... and regretted it both times.

I doubt I'll even bother with number 6.
 
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