PART TWO.....
On The Trial of a Timelord
I liked working with Colin, I’m sure you’ve all met him, he’s a beautiful, well-mannered man, very easy to work with, a proper gent as they say down south. It was a lot of fun, couldn’t have been nice, really. I’m sure you all like Colin.
I loved coming up on the big screen. I’d never made an entrance like that before. Although my part in Trial of a Timelord was rather miniscule, it was nice to be there. Michael Jayston was a very nice person.
On Survival
I was put in this chair, I felt captive there, and this man had this thing in his hand and I couldn’t believe it was going into my eye. He said ‘Lie back, relax’ and he did some black magic, and it was in my eye. He said ‘Here’s a mirror’ and I looked and it was wonderful, it looked like a cat’s eye with that perpendicular slit that they have, beautiful eyes, and I thought ‘This is going to be magic’. What happened? After a few weeks, they decided that this man wouldn’t be with us on filming, we’d have to do it ourselves, so they gave us these little cheap rubber, no slit, contact lenses, and we could put them in ourselves. It took a bit of practice. Quite nasty. I was disappointed, because they just looked like yellow eyes, they didn’t look like cats’ eyes.
In the fight with Sylvester, I accidentally hit him quite hard with a large bone. I didn’t mean to hit him. These things are done by numbers, and you work it all out, and somehow I managed to hit his wrist very hard with a femur, that’s a large bone. Sylvester, having had to wear those wretched contact lenses that day, didn’t like it, because he hadn’t had the training (with the lenses) that Sophie and I had, and he was finding it very painful to put them in. He didn’t have much help. He wasn’t enjoying it at all, he was in pain, and when I hit him on the wrist with the bone, I said ‘I’m terribly sorry’, he said ‘It’s okay Ant, I’m now in so much pain in my wrist, I can’t feel the pain in my eyes’.
Similar things happened with the cheetah heads. I was told that when they put out the tenders, they were brought in, one businessman said ‘What do you think of this?’, it was wonderful but it was expensive. Another businessman came in with a different cheetah head, said ‘What do you think of this?’. It wasn’t so good, but it was cheap. Of course the BBC took the cheap one. My own feelings on them… this sort of thing shows, and I think it was a little sad. But I hope you liked the cheetah heads you got. At times, they looked quite frightening, but at times they looked like teddy bears, which wasn’t the idea.
The teeth, I had to put fangs in. I didn’t want to, but I was told to. I went to an orthodontist, and they put in these fangs, with a bit of plasticine, but I found it very hard to speak, very hard to speak clearly, so I took the bottom ones out after a while. Bad continuity, that, you might notice that, but they got in my way.
On Doctor Who comic strips
I don’t read them, but I gaze at them. I’ve always been a man for looking at pictures, when I read the newspapers I look at the pictures. A bit like Ronnie Reagan in that respect. It’s very difficult to get faces, lookalikes, but they’re very clever. I have a great respect for artists, it’s a difficult task, drawing, but they do it very well. I wish I could draw.
On Ian Marter
It was so sad about Ian Marter. I was with him just before he died, and I’ve never seen a man look so well. He wrote well, didn’t he, Ian Marter? He’d been doing this muscle course. He had muscles in places I don’t have muscles. And he dropped dead! What’s happening to us all?
On the 1989 cancellation
I wouldn’t be pleased (if Survival was the end for his Master). A guy’s got to eat. I wouldn’t be pleased at all, but I have a feeling that it is the end. I have a gut feeling. I wish I could have brought you exclusive news that we go again in Autumn, 28 episodes of the Master battling the Doctor! But alas, I can’t bring you that news. I hope I’m wrong, but I think the party may well be over. But I want to thank you for keeping it going, to revivify the legend, and I have no doubt in my own mind that were it not for fans, it wouldn’t have lasted 28 years.
I think the ratings drooped a little. In the last ten years, didn’t they? Tom was getting big figures. Ratings fell, and when ratings fall in television, in spite of your (the fans’) love and enthusiasm, the executives get scared. Why did the ratings fall? It might have been because we went up against ‘Coronation Street’, the most popular soap in the world? It was a big drop, wasn’t it? A 50% drop. It was considerable. And TV executives panic, when the ratings do well, the BBC executives get excited, but it’s all about sales. I think they get excited about the video sales, and if they ignore that, they’re crazy. I’m so proud that the videos sell so well.
If only the BBC had taken a bit more care, spent a bit more money, and treated you people better, given you better quality, not rushed them, things might have been different. In my experience, they were too rushed. It’s all to do with money. They took you for granted. They tended to use ‘Doctor Who’ as a kind of training ship for novices to get their experience on. That’s bad.
What he’d like written in his obituary
This bloke is past his recommended selling date. I don’t know, I think I might like it said that ‘I hope they weren’t kidding about heaven’, ’cause I want to go to heaven!
A Plea to the BBC
(sung by Ainley)
Don’t give up on us B-Beeb
Not now we’ve come this far
That Sophie, she’s a great big star
She’s also very lovely
and awfully nice to know
Don’t give up on us B-Beeb
Give us back our show!
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Anthony Ainley (1982)
September 19, 2009
Anthony Ainley, who died just a few years ago, had quite a hard task taking over the role of the Master, as he acknowledges in this early interview. I met him once, back in the 1990’s when I used to go to conventions. I forget where we were, but a friend and I were in the queue for breakfast on the last morning, and somehow got talking to Ainley, who was in the queue ahead of us. He was very friendly, and as he walked off, he said we should join him to eat. A few minutes later, we noticed him sitting alone in the corner, at quite a large table. We thought he wanted to be alone, but we also worried that he might think we were ignoring him, so we went and joined him. It was fun, although he did seem to excuse himself pretty quickly after he was finished eating. Still not sure if we got the social niceties right on that one, but anyway, here’s the interview:
“I was lucky enough to be in ‘The Pallisers’, which was a big production BBC series. John Nathan-Turner was working on that. He remembered me and later asked me if I’d like to play the part of the Master. It’s an added hazard doing parts somebody else has done. The obvious risk is that you may be compared; thought not to be as good as, that sort of thing… Nevertheless, I don’t think I was ever in real trepidation, because the Masters is such a good part and such a joy to do. At the back of my mind, there is always the thought that everyone enjoyed Roger Delgado’s portrayal, but that just means I’ve got to be pretty darned good in return.
“I believe that if you are tackling an acting job, a lot of it has to come from you, from your gut reaction to the script. You have to feel for your instincts in tackling any dramatic role, really. It mean, if it all came externally, none of it from you but from what people are trying to impose upon you, then I think it is nowhere near as interesting to do. I don’t really like to talk about acting, but I do feel that if it comes from you, then it will be real, it will be exciting and it will be believable.
“What’s interesting is the kind of letters one gets from ‘Doctor Who’ fans. On the whole, they are very intelligent… and they tend to know more about the part than I do. As an age group they all tend to be under thirty. What surprises me is that they tend to be over twenty and a fifty-fifty mixture of male and female. I’m not playing a heart-throb figure so I don’t get a large female outpouring in terms of the content. Roger was charming, I’m not – you can’t help that. You’ve either got charm or you haven’t and I haven’t got much!”