Review Jeepers Creepers (2001)

Elliot Thomas

Member: Rank 3
Tense, well-executed horror that keeps its audience guessing for the first hour. It then descends into a gleefully wild gorefest that’s preposterous even by slasher movie standards.
 

Janine The Barefoot

Wacky Norwegian Woman
Jeepers Creepers is a 2001 American horror film written and directed by Victor Salva.
One of the few masterpieces of the genre as I see it.... which I'm pretty certain I should clarify. I don't like horror per se' and I just don't understand the thought process behind the "horror porn" fest that was Hostel or the film about the kids in the cabin who died (one by peeling her own skin off in the bath shaving her legs) in a variety of gore, blood & guts inducing ways. I thought everything after #1 Saw was exploitation schlock and really don't want to even hear about Friday the 13th anymore.

Give me: The House on Haunted Hill (preferably the original thanks)
The Birds (or any number of Hitchcock's films)
Penny Dreadful (season 1 and/or 2 only)
Rebecca
Event Horizon

Or any number of "Horror" films that don't need to show someone being flayed alive (in it's entirety) to be thrilling, scary as hell and still (after all these years) keep me hiding behind my fingers or peeking out from behind a pillow. For movies like these, the value is not in: how many gallons of fake blood was used or was there enough projectile vomiting? They are content to show you just enough of what's happening that your imagination takes you all the way home (therein lying the suspense and genuine fear) and build-up slowly to those moments by telling a finely crafted story that sucks you inside of it. The characters matter, you want them to make it, you're genuinely afraid for them and want to get them out of there yourself right now!!!!!

Victor Salvo took an idea and with about $100,000.00 turned it into a 4* "little engine that could". From the first moment we see that truck go roaring by with BEEATINGYOU on the license plate, to Eileen Brennan with her cats and her shotgun it was both captivating and compelling. "The Monster" was a miracle of fear inducing hysteria and between his hat and the Duster he wore you never really got that good a look at him, until the moment on the road just before Trish ran him over and then back again! And he, Salvo, did it with almost no money at all. I saw a version that had some of his commentary on it and he said he had to make certain shots, in the Police station for instance, the way that he did because "there was actually no wall there"! They didn't have the money to make a fully built building so he worked around the missing walls. So it was pretty ironic that some of the scariest moments are the ones between Trish, Derry and the Monster when she's fighting for a trade with all she's got and the reason we're only looking at the moon outside the window is because there isn't any south wall to pan over to!

And I liked the sequel just as much! I liked that it was once again pretty much about a group of kids pitted against this monster (even given that they're in HS and there's almost 30 of them) and that Derry, poor god-awful, tragic Derry had a small part of his own to play in this movie as well. I thought "the count off" inside the bus was genius as well as watching which of those kids was going to end up falling like a house of cards while the others rose to the occasion.

I've been waiting forever for Trish to finally return and go get her justice the hard way and I'm about as excited as a person can be bout a movie that probably won't get any advanced press, or a "Box Office Opening Big Week-end" because I'm fine with all of that crap being absent anyway. I'm just happy that this little movie that I couldn't watch after dark for years is finally getting it's close. Most likely once again with no or a "Low Budget" (a great Kinks song by the way) and most likely once again underrated and poo-pooed by the general public. For me, Victor Salvo will always be the magic man who proved that it's not the budget, it's the guy who's making the film!

:emoji_kiss::emoji_dancer: And for VS's fabulous achievement: :emoji_dancers::emoji_dancers::emoji_dancers::emoji_dancers::emoji_dancers::emoji_dancers::emoji_dancers::emoji_dancers::emoji_dancers::emoji_dancers::emoji_dancers::emoji_dancers::emoji_dancers::emoji_dancers::emoji_dancers::emoji_dancers::emoji_dancers::emoji_dancers::emoji_dancers::emoji_dancers:
Whoopie! it's party time for us weirdo "Suspense/Horror Goons whom no one else will ever be able to understand!!!!!!
 

chainsaw_metal1

Member: Rank 8
I've been shunned by many in the horror community, but I refuse to watch these movies because of director Victor Salva. I just can't do it.
 

chainsaw_metal1

Member: Rank 8
I get it, I havent watched Clownhouse after I found out what he did.
I'm glad someone gets it. I got into it with numerous folks on both IMDb and Facebook about the whole thing, and people just made me out to be an asshole because of my stance. I wasn't telling anyone else not to watch the films, I just can't. Cheers!
 

Hux

Member: Rank 6
I've been shunned by many in the horror community, but I refuse to watch these movies because of director Victor Salva. I just can't do it.
There was an interesting documentary by Victoria Coren Mitchell where she talked about separating the art from the artist. Is it okay to listen to Wagner knowing he was an anti-semite, is it okay to like Eric Gill's sculptures given his sexual molestation of his children.

She came down on the side of no.

I'm less certain.
 

TheSowIsMine

What an excellent day for an exorcism
VIP
There was an interesting documentary by Victoria Coren Mitchell where she talked about separating the art from the artist. Is it okay to listen to Wagner knowing he was an anti-semite, is it okay to like Eric Gill's sculptures given his sexual molestation of his children.

She came down on the side of no.

I'm less certain.
I can separate the two(not always), but I can really understand why some can't.
 

Janine The Barefoot

Wacky Norwegian Woman
I'm glad someone gets it.
Get it? I don't even know what it even is??????? I'm one of those "People on the Fence" when it comes to things like: Do we use the research the Nazi's collected? It's helped medical science to move forward but the way it was acquired makes it highly suspect and subject to ridicule. I see both sides of the argument and still keep wrestling with it because on the one hand, morality. On the other hand, progress in curing disease, helping people with mental issues solving problems both mental and physical so how do you make a judgement when those kind of questions (and their answers) are what's at stake?

So if Salvo is a pedophile or comes down on anything at all that our POTUS would be in favor of... then I'll light the match on his "Wooden Man" (because we were discussing it recently on another thread). But I honestly have no idea what you guys are talking about. So if someone would be so kind as to explain why we should burn him in effigy, I'd be ever so grateful (and happily join the rant!)

Thanks ya'll!

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TheSowIsMine

What an excellent day for an exorcism
VIP
He is a child molester and he filmed the molestation of the, then 12 year old, lead character of the film Clownhouse.
He was convicted of that and owning child pornography.
 

chainsaw_metal1

Member: Rank 8
There was an interesting documentary by Victoria Coren Mitchell where she talked about separating the art from the artist. Is it okay to listen to Wagner knowing he was an anti-semite, is it okay to like Eric Gill's sculptures given his sexual molestation of his children.

She came down on the side of no.

I'm less certain.
It is something I struggle with, as far as one should be able to separate the two. But in some cases, I can't. I love Wagner's work, but like Stephen Fry, I feel wrong listening to it. I'm certain that there are numerous creepy things that artists I love have done that would immediately turn me off of their work, but some things I can't get past. It's merely my hangup. I stand only for myself, and no one else. :emoji_grin:
 

Janine The Barefoot

Wacky Norwegian Woman
It is something I struggle with, as far as one should be able to separate the two
I have no question at all about it in this case. The man is an artist who used his medium to create something hurtful, painful and illegal on top of it all. He abused a child that he obtained access to on his set and then filmed what he did to that child (again by misusing his own medium to create "works of art") thereby creating a permanent record of one of the most damaging experiences a child can go through. He is a sick and dangerous monster who should never have access to either film or children again.

In this case, for me at least, there is no gray area and there will never be anything he creates that I personally will watch. If for no other reason than because he crossed a line that, again, is something I view without questions of any kind insofar as this incident is concerned.

I agree that I won't say anything about anyone else's choices regarding their personal responses. But to me he is a monster and a criminal and if someone wants to help me build a Wooden Man in his image you can bet I will bloody well light the match and watch it go up in flames. Hell, I'd go so far as to take everything he's ever filmed (every canister, master copy, DVD video, VHS, 8mm and whatever other form it may be in) pile it up on his front lawn and burn them all down to ash.... or take a pound of C-4 and blow a hole so big the Earth underneath it would be blown into dust right along with the rest of it, just to keep anyone from being to watch any of it ever again!

This is not a question for me. This is not something I'm "on the fence" in regard to. He should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, labeled a child molester, serve his time and if he comes out of prison alive, should be required to register in every neighborhood he ever lives in so people will be warned they have a predator in their midst. It is no wonder to me that his "Jeepers Creepers" monster is so terrifying.... it's because that is what he looks like on the inside!

So thanks for the update guys. If I sound like a Norwegian woman gone mad it's because that's what situations like this do to me. I worked in the teaching profession for years and spent 2 of them working with a little girl whose father had been molesting her since she was four. Because she had to wait until she was older to be a "credible witness" on the stand, she didn't get to court until she was in 5th grade and by that time the emotional and psychological damage that had been done to her was virtually ingrained in her psyche. I'm not sure how or if she will ever recover. I just know that she struggled every day in class trying to get along with her fellow students and trying to behave "normally" in a world that would probably never be normal for her ever again. She and I worked out a couple of strategies that helped take the pressure off in the classroom and I think we had some small successes because when she saw me again, years later, in middle school she launched herself across the office like a rocket to throw herself into my arms like I was the only safe harbor in the room. When I look back on it, she was one of my greatest loves and working with her cemented in me the fact that I was needed in the classroom and that my view on teaching being a "calling" for me was more true than almost any other "truth" I have know in my life. But for what happened to her and for what happens to every child who is molested, I will never back down or question my stance for as long as I live. I've seen the aftermath, lived with the consequences and find there is no penalty too strong or too severe to make up for what these kids have suffered through.

So no more VS for me.... ever. Close the book. Notarize the contract and file it under "done".

:emoji_kiss::emoji_dancer: And for every child who has been hurt like this..... :emoji_cry: and a line of puppies and kitties to hug and play with when it gets dark & hard..... :emoji_dog2::emoji_dog2::emoji_dog2::emoji_dog2::emoji_dog2::emoji_dog2::emoji_dog2::emoji_dog2::emoji_dog2::emoji_dog2::emoji_dog2: :emoji_cat::emoji_cat::emoji_cat::emoji_cat::emoji_cat::emoji_cat::emoji_cat::emoji_cat::emoji_cat::emoji_cat: and also, "teddy bears with attitude" to protect them from the monsters...... :emoji_bear::emoji_bear::emoji_bear::emoji_bear::emoji_bear::emoji_bear::emoji_bear::emoji_bear::emoji_bear::emoji_bear::emoji_bear::emoji_bear::emoji_bear::emoji_bear::emoji_bear::emoji_bear::emoji_bear::emoji_bear::emoji_bear:
 

Janine The Barefoot

Wacky Norwegian Woman
I can separate the two(not always), but I can really understand why some can't.
But in this case, the man used his art as the means to hurt and destroy the life of a child. There is no separation of artist and the art he creates. He used his art in the creation of this monstrosity which is a completely different thing.....
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chainsaw_metal1

Member: Rank 8
He should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, labeled a child molester, serve his time and if he comes out of prison alive, should be required to register in every neighborhood he ever lives in so people will be warned they have a predator in their midst.
Alas, he was prosecuted, and served time. And got out and is allowed to make movies.

It is no wonder to me that his "Jeepers Creepers" monster is so terrifying.... it's because that is what he looks like on the inside!
The best way it was ever described to me is this. He made Powder, about a sympathetic character who is hated by those who don't "understand him". Then he made Jeepers Creepers, about a monster who can't help what he is, and acts only on his nature. The person I was talking to basically said he was making movies to defend what he was, and that he should be looked at in a sympathetic light, because he "can't help what he is".

I have lots to say about that, but it's flogging a dead horse.
 

High Plains Drifter

The Drifter
VIP
Thing I liked most about this movie other than a different horror movie story. The monster makeup of the Creeper. I thought this was pretty cool, the make-up, body suit, and the over all look. This monster was different, and wasn't like hey how can we recopy that. Another thing was how he hunted out certain people. I wish there was more back story as too how he was created, and became what he was.
 

TheSowIsMine

What an excellent day for an exorcism
VIP
I wish there was more back story as too how he was created, and became what he was.
Im conflicted about that. On one hand is cool to know more about such a creature, but on the other, the mystery is usually better.
I would have been happy if we would have never seen the creature as up close as we did.
 

Janine The Barefoot

Wacky Norwegian Woman
Thing I liked most about this movie other than a different horror movie story. The monster makeup of the Creeper
I have to agree with that too. The Creeper was the most unusual "monster" the genre had seen in a very, very long time. But I also thought we saw just enough of him as we needed to to get a really good feel for how scary he truly was.

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