Review DISCUSSION- CATWEAZLE: "THE SUN IN A BOTTLE" - Episode 01

Doctor Omega

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Your thoughts on this episode....


Catweazle, an 11th century magician, is conjuring in his cave when his enemies suddenly burst in. He flees, casting a spell to make himself fly. However, something goes wrong because the spell transports him to the 20th century instead.

Full Cast List....

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0537656/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast






On to the next episode....

CASTLE SABURAC

https://www.imdforums.com/threads/this-friday-on-catweazle-s01e02-castle-saburac-duck-halt.4744/


Jump to the final episode....


THE THIRTEENTH SIGN

https://www.imdforums.com/threads/catweazle-the-thirteenth-sign-episode-26.4647/
 
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Doctor Omega

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Just watched the episode and the word that springs most to mind is charming.

This appears to be a really charming show and I think the storytelling is timeless.

Yes, it may be slower than the attention deficit children of today are programmed to cope with, but I would suggest that society is at fault there, rather than the shows of yesteryear. I think that the world needs to slow down and get back to engaging with these shows. Otherwise it is, I think, their loss.

Similarly, I think one needs to still be able to compromise and partially switch off that cynical adult and view this through the eyes of a child to really appreciate it. Otherwise there is no point in viewing it at all.

All that is left, if one does not do that, is a point by point deconstruction of each episode, listing all of it's shortcomings, which would not only be, presumably, tedious to write, but surely equally tedious to read.


As to the episode itself, Bayldon is brilliant and works well with Robin Davies.

I see Neil McCarthy is in the show. I lived in Sleaford, a town near Lincoln and, when he died, it was mentioned in the local paper that he had, years before, lived in Sleaford and attended the grammar school just up the road from my humble secondary modern.

I knew him best as Calibos in CLASH OF THE TITANS, of course. And his great role in one of the STEPTOE movies, at Albert's "funeral".

The episode sets out the stall for the show - with very much a similar feel, to me, of the later WORZEL GUMMIDGE, with an impossible character befriending the family children and having misadventures every week.

I feel that, as with many shows, a remake would fail to replicate the charm (and all-important pace and ambience) of the original, along with pointless political box ticking topped off with what I see as a general slump in the acting standards of the UK. Bland and flat-voiced acting seems to be the high water mark these days. :emoji_head_bandage:

I have never watched this show in any focused way - although I think I saw this opening episode years ago, so it should be fun, with a bunch of comrades, journeying through this classic. :emoji_alien:

I like Michael's grading system, so will use that, but feel that through no fault of it's own that the episode is slightly restricted by having to set out the stall, which it does well, but it leaves little time for anything else. But it gets a solid mark from me nonetheless.


Grade B+
 
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michaellevenson

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I agree with Doctor Omega, you have to view it in the same spirit of fun that it was made, without dissecting the minutiae of the show. It could be a lot of fun doing this. You can get something out of this show if you relax the adult side of your perspective a bit, but it's a sort of self fulfilling prophecy that if you think you can get nothing out of it, then probably you won't.
 
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Cloister56

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Ok some interesting posts so far.
I had never heard of Catweazle until it started appearing as a nomination so I don't have any nostalgic link to this show.
Most of the shows I remember most fondly from my childhood are cartoons like He-Man, Thundercats and I tried watching He-Man a few years ago and time has not been kind.
As for the live action stuff, only really Knightmare stands out, but that was a very different format of show and I have enjoyed rewatching episodes of that. I did eventually discover Dark Season which stuck with me as a child but I have yet to watch it all.
As I was exploring sci-fi and fantasy of the 70's and 80's I did come across a few shows aimed at children that have impressed me. Children of the Stones and Timeslip are both excellent with great concepts and ideas, the fact the main protagonists are children didn't change that.
I guess the fear with a children's show is it may be too simple or dumbed down. Often that gets levelled at Doctor Who to dismiss it as just a kids show or even sometimes to excuse it.
I can understand Mad-Pac's concerns that Catweazle may fall into this area of children's show, with little appeal to a more mature audience.
I can understand both Doctor Omega and Michaellevenson, you both seem to have fond memories of this show.
But I intend to watch this show with no pretence. If it is a good show then it will stand up I think.

So on to episode 1 "The Sun in the Bottle"
The opening scenes in Norman times are nicely shot. I like Catweazles cave and I especially like the scene where he is cornered with Normans appearing in different directions in the forest. I did get concerned when Catweazle was running, he was showing a lot of leg, I hope he is wearing undergarments too or this could go out of the kids section very quickly.
I liked the fact the Normans didn't seem to be speaking English, it help define them quickly as foreign invaders.

A quick spell later and Catweazle is in modern times.
His amazement and fear of modern devices is very well played. The scene with the lightbulb and his casting his spells to turn it on was amusing and I like how Carrot slowly went from amusement to eventually sick of it. The last scene with Catweazle attempting the same thing with objects that look like the lightswitch and bulb, nicely demonstrate his thinking. The concepts of wiring and electricity are completely alien to him so he just mimics what he has seen. You get the feeling he will begin to learn the secrets of this new magic.
Plus he gets points for using the correct term "Electrickery"

Carrot seems like a nice lad. He now joins that pantheon of kids from the 70's and 80's with some magic friend living nearby who he can't tell his parents about. I remember vividly "Five Children and It" which had a similar idea. I can imagine he is going to be sent to his room a lot over the course of this series.

I was a bit confused by who Sam Woodyard actually was. He at one point calls Carrot's dad boss. So he has come round to his bosses house to watch what sounds like motor racing. When the TV stops working he marches round the house looking for the bosses son to fix it. He will even break open doors to get this done. I'm not inviting him to my house any time soon.
I did like seeing Barnham from "The Mind of Evil" again though.

So off to a good start, the episode moved along and a good pace and kept me entertained. Catweazle seems to be an interesting main character. Let see where we go from here.

7 frogs lost in the time vortex, or a lake, out of 10.
 

michaellevenson

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Sam Woodyard is an employee of George Bennett at Hexwood Farm , he lives with his aged mother in a nearby cottage, and when we see her you can understand Sam wanting to spend as much time as possible at Hexwood!
And as Catweazle will remind anyone who gets it wrong, his pet Touchwood is a toad.
 

Cloister56

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Sam Woodyard is an employee of George Bennett at Hexwood Farm , he lives with his aged mother in a nearby cottage, and when we see her you can understand Sam wanting to spend as much time as possible at Hexwood!
And as Catweazle will remind anyone who gets it wrong, his pet Touchwood is a toad.
It was 50/50 I almost typed Toad, ah well. :emoji_grin:
 

Doctor Omega

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I saw this opening episode years ago,

Yes, I believe that this is actually the only episode I have seen previously and was trying to think where I had seen it.

It turns out it was on this collection of sample episodes from different shows of the genre, which is a nice set to own and one of three or four similar titles of random opening episodes of shows......


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At least I think that was the episode that was on this set. I will have to double check it. It most likely is this opener though.

But this means that the remaining 25 episodes of the series (whichever they are) are a mystery to me, because I never saw CATWEAZLE back in the day. WORZEL GUMMIDGE, yes, which this reminds me of somewhat, format wise, even down to Bayldon being in it, so I guess I am certainly well acquainted with this style of show.

But I like what I have seen so far.
 
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Doctor Omega

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The above sets were also my first introduction to ACE OF WANDS and TIMESLIP.

And it was nice to see Sylvester McCoy turn up in the background in an episode of ROBERT'S ROBOTS.
 

Brimfin

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Good gravy! What was the big hurry? We used to have a two week break in between shows, now we just finished voting and bang - first episode posted already. I wasn't expecting such a rush, so I haven't even had time to watch it yet. I'll try to watch as soon as possible.
 

Gavin

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I'm not really sure what I think of this show yet. Like @Mad-Pac I've never seen this show so I'm coming into it without any real frame of reference. I imagine that as a child I would have probably enjoyed this. It's similar in concept to Worzel Gummidge which I did see and enjoy. But I imagine rewatching that now would reveal its limitations as a show. Unlike, say Doctor Who, which was designed to be watched by both children and adults, this is squarely aimed at children only. Despite that its an interesting concept and enjoyable enough, although I expect that seeing Catweazle amazed by modern technology could get repetitive.

The opening was good but those soldiers were absolutely hopeless. They should all be fired.

I'll give this episode 7 out of 10 because it was fairly enjoyable but I'm not yet convinced that the concept is strong enough for an entire series.
 

Brimfin

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I’ll spare you the saga of the problems I was having with the Smartcast feature this week, but I managed to get the show watched using YouTube on my TV. It was reminiscent of MY FAVORITE MARTIAN and shows of its kind, and being dated in 1969, fit right into the same timeframe. Back then, on American TV we have what are now labeled “the gimmick shows” with beings like witches, genies, and Martians using their magic powers every week while keeping their identities secret. Don’t know if the same thing happened in other countries at that time, but it was an amusing and innocent time for us.

Anyway, we have all the elements here. Catweazle is a wizard from the 11th century who tries to flee from the Normans by using a spell to make him fly. Instead, he flies forward in time in one quick jump, nicely accomplished by showing him jump into a large body of water in 1066 or so and then emerge in a small pond far away. It isn’t until he hides in a barn and sees a large modern tractor that we realize he’s in the 20th century instead. He’s found by young Edward Bennet, nicknamed Carrot because of his red hair. Ed hides the wizard and offers to bring him food later. His father notices the smell of the old man, but doesn’t catch on that he’s hiding in a barrel. Already the “keeping his identity secret” factor is at play. Ed doesn’t tell his Dad or the family friend Sam about Catweazle, and then he makes a promise on a magic knife that he won’t say anything about him. So later on, when the wizard has made a mess in his house and Dad’s upset about it, Ed finds that now he can’t tell his Dad the truth. Will this continue? Or will his Dad or Sam become the Major Healy that at first didn’t know about Jeannie and then later became the confidant who knew his friend’s secret.

The whole concept doesn’t work unless the wizard has genuine powers, of course. His spell did take him forward in time, even if it wasn’t what he wanted. And the magic knife does genuinely keep Carrot from revealing his secret, so no doubt his magic will come into play in future episodes – spells gone haywire and such. Plus we have the whole “fish out of water” routine as Catweazle gasps in amazement at our modern technology. And thus is the concept set up in the pilot episode.

Low points: I had trouble making out what Catweazle is saying early on because of his thick accent and way of speaking. Then we meet the modern-day Bennets, and I found I couldn’t understand them at first either. (They talked too fast and with accents as well). Fortunately, it got easier to understand all of them as the plot progressed.

When Cat doesn’t like the orange juice, does he have to spit it all over the place and make a mess, or does he have to break the window while climbing out? I’m not a big fan of comic destruction of property, especially when it’s just the house of a plain ordinary citizen (as opposed to some rich person who can just replace any damages easily.)

High points:
Best exchange:
Catweazle: Are you Norman?
Carrot: No. My name’s Edward.

It was also amusing when Cat tries to shush the owl by demanding he “hoot not.” The owl hoots anyway, and CW mutters, “Stone deaf!”

An amusing opening. I’ll give it 6 dusty lanterns and loose latches on the wall, that just won’t work the same way a light bulb and a light switch do.
 

michaellevenson

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I liked your review Brimfin, you seem to have got what this show is about already.
Yes CW does seem to have hypnosis powers, and Richard Carpenter throughout leaves it open to wonder if CW 's powers are hypnotic, magic ,or just coincidence.
There's some lovely lines in this show and you picked out probably the stand out ones.
Catweazle spitting out the orange juice, I think was expected, his immediate reaction to something unfamiliar to taste would be that it's poisonous. I like Carrot's deadpan reaction to his Dad asking what's all this mess; "erm...supper", and the father's reply, " sometimes I think you're off your head.
 

Doctor Omega

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Yes, I believe that this is actually the only episode I have seen previously and was trying to think where I had seen it.

It turns out it was on this collection of sample episodes from different shows of the genre, which is a nice set to own and one of three or four similar titles of random opening episodes of shows......


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At least I think that was the episode that was on this set. I will have to double check it. It most likely is this opener though.

But this means that the remaining 25 episodes of the series (whichever they are) are a mystery to me, because I never saw CATWEAZLE back in the day. WORZEL GUMMIDGE, yes, which this reminds me of somewhat, format wise, even down to Bayldon being in it, so I guess I am certainly well acquainted with this style of show.

But I like what I have seen so far.

Have checked now. It wasn't the opening episode.... It was one called THE DEMI DEVIL and I have no memory of it at all. :emoji_confused:

But CATWEAZLE is proving a great, fun show to watch, with a charm that is just sadly missing from the current crop of shows, in my opinion.
 

Doctor Omega

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Funnily enough, with all this 70's charm, I was perusing a charity shop the other day and stumbled on this large format book called THE 1970'S SCRAPBOOK by Robert Opie.It is a visually sumptuous guided tour through that decade and is well worth picking up.


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CATWEAZLE gets a namecheck when the 1973 annual pops it's head up amongst a cluster of all the other SIX MILLION DOLLAR MAN and SPACE 1999 annuals etc....


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ant-mac

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CATWEAZLE gets off to a strong start with the opening episode, THE SUN IN A BOTTLE. It opens by showing us Catweazle in his native time and place - eleventh century England - going about his daily routine. Then, after he runs afoul of some Norman soldiers, he falls into a lake to emerge from a pond several centuries later, although from his - and the viewers’ - perspective, it’s almost instantaneously. This has a rather jarring effect on the viewers and perfectly illustrates to them the effects that the jump through time must have had on Catweazle himself.

Geoffrey Bayldon is absolutely perfect as the time travelling wizard from the past and he is ably supported by a strong and talented regular cast in the form of Robin Davies as Edward “Carrot” Bennet, Neil McCarthy as Sam Woodyard and finally, Australian acting legend, Charles "Bud" Tingwell as Carrot’s father, Mister Bennet. I’ve heard CATWEAZLE described as a children’s TV series, but I disagree. To me, it’s simply a well-made family TV show.

4/5.
 

Doctor Omega

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Australian acting legend, Charles "Bud" Tingwell

I have to hang my head in shame and say that I don't really recognise him outside of this show - and I wouldn't have known he was Australian if they hadn't mentioned it in that lovely short documentary where Bayldon and Davies return to the farm.

I shall rectify this immediately by chasing up Tingwell's other credits though.

He is certainly a sterling actor in the show - as are the entire cast.

I am loving the cameo appearances, as we go along, from the cream of the acting profession at the time. You don't pull big names like that if your show is crap.

Part of the fun of viewing these episodes is seeing who will pop up next. :emoji_alien:

I am banking on a Diana Dors/Alan Lake appearance at some point, and will be surprised if Una Stubbs doesn't appear, along with Barbara Windsor perhaps.
 

ant-mac

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I have to hang my head in shame and say that I don't really recognise him outside of this show - and I wouldn't have known he was Australian if they hadn't mentioned it in that lovely short documentary where Bayldon and Davies return to the farm.

I shall rectify this immediately by chasing up Tingwell's other credits though.

He is certainly a sterling actor in the show - as are the entire cast.

I am loving the cameo appearances, as we go along, from the cream of the acting profession at the time. You don't pull big names like that if your show is crap.

Part of the fun of viewing these episodes is seeing who will pop up next. :emoji_alien:

I am banking on a Diana Dors/Alan Lake appearance at some point, and will be surprised if Una Stubbs doesn't appear, along with Barbara Windsor perhaps.
After the end of WWII, Tingwell worked in Australia and England. After work prospects dried up down under, he moved to England to continue his acting career. He eventually returned to Australia in the early 1970s to take on a leading role in the long-running Australian police TV series, HOMICIDE.

He also had a long career in films.
 
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