Fun The Terminator Franchise!

chainsaw_metal1

Member: Rank 8
I really disliked Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines. Like, just thought it was crap.

I really enjoyed Terminator: Salvation. I realize that much of this is because of the charisma of the actors, because the story isn't terrific (good story, but could have been executed better). Still, I can re-watch this film as often as I can the first two films.

I hated Terminator Genisys. Okay, that one's not unpopular, but it needed said. The movie is shit.
 

filmfan95

Member: Rank 3
My unpopular Terminator opinion is that I think that the first film in the franchise was the only good film of the franchise.

For a low budget film, it sure felt intense, even when the special effects were laughable. It felt almost like I was watching a horror/slasher film. It's my favorite of the series.

Plus, I believe that the sequels undermined the original point of the first Terminator film. It's clear that the first film was scripted with a causal loop in mind for the way time travel worked. In other words, time is set, and cant be changed. John Conner doesn't exist unless Kyle Reese goes back in time, and if I'm not mistaken, the place where the T-101 is defeated at the very end is actually Cyberdyne, meaning that Skynet was built out of the remains of the destroyed T-101, which can't happen unless there was a T-101 there to begin with. I think there are even deleted scenes leading up to the final battle where Kyle and Sarah head toward Cyberdyne to blow it up, to prevent the war from happening, which explains why they ended up at Cyberdyne in the end in the first place, and also makes the film have much more meaning. Skynet thought he could change his fate by preventing the birth of John Conner, while Sarah and Kyle thought they could prevent the war from happening, and the irony is that their attempts were misguided, as anything they do is already meant to happen. It's a pretty deep movie with lots of layers, when you think about it. The first time I saw the movie, it gave me a lot to think about.

Then, the sequel comes along and renders the whole point moot. While John is still said to be Kyle's son, and Cyberdyne still apparently is building Skynet from the remains of the T-101, the future is actually changeable in the sequel. I could go with the fan theory that John Conner was originally a different person with a different father, and the events of the first film erased him from existence and brought a different John Conner into the world, but I honestly don't buy it. It's clear watching the first film that the original intention of the filmmakers was to portray time travel as working in a causal loop. And let's not even mention the ending of the second film. It makes no sense. John basically erases Skynet from existence, but wouldnt that also mean that Kyle never traveled back in time to bring him into existence? I was scratching my head at the end of the second film. Of course, the third film retcons the events from the end of the second film, but by then, the concept was getting old.

No, the first film is the best, and in my opinion, is the only one that makes any dang sense.
 
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ant-mac

Member: Rank 9
I really disliked Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines. Like, just thought it was crap.

I really enjoyed Terminator: Salvation. I realize that much of this is because of the charisma of the actors, because the story isn't terrific (good story, but could have been executed better). Still, I can re-watch this film as often as I can the first two films.

I hated Terminator Genisys. Okay, that one's not unpopular, but it needed said. The movie is shit.
I really enjoyed the first three films.

I also thought that the third film was the perfect end to the trilogy. It completed the original story concept. It wasn't about preventing Judgement Day, it was about making sure the right people survived it.

I think they should have stopped then and there.
 

Doctor Omega

Member: Rank 10
I really enjoyed the first three films.

I also thought that the third film was the perfect end to the trilogy. It completed the original story concept. It wasn't about preventing Judgement Day, it was about making sure the right people survived it.

I think they should have stopped then and there.
I totally agree with this view. Anything since, including the tv show, have felt to me like unnecessary add-ons.
 

Bad Horse

Member: Rank 1
T2 will forever hold a special place in my heart. Not just because it's a great movie (which it is) but because of the time and place in which I first saw it. It was pre-internet/smartphone gives everyone every piece of info possible about everything. I was in the theatre and had NO idea Arnold was going to be the good guy. Mind was blown and action/crazy good sfx followed. Loved it!

Oh, and as for the subject at hand, I like all the Terminator movies (except for Genisys of course :p)
 

sitenoise

Member: Rank 5
I don't really remember much of Rise, Genisys, or Salvation, but I did see them and of those three I rated Genisys higher than the other two. dunno.gif
 

Doctor Omega

Member: Rank 10
Shortly after the first Terminator film opened, Harlan Ellison settled out of court, claiming that James Cameron's Terminator ripped off two episodes that he had written for The Outer Limits: Soldier and Demon With a Glass Hand.







A credit had to be inserted at the end of the first Terminator film, acknowledging this.

Surely it was all some terrible mistake?

Or was it?



and here is the whole story behind the threatened court action...


James Cameron has since called Ellison "A parasite!"

But what do you think?
 
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Doctor Omega

Member: Rank 10



James Cameron involved this time...

Terminator (2019) Reboot

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt6450804/?ref_=nv_sr_1

Further info on this mooted new film...

He’ll be back! James Cameron, who regains certain rights to his prized creation The Terminator in 2019, is godfathering a new iteration of the film that might finally get it right in drawing a close in the battle between humans and Skynet. Sources said that Cameron, whose copyright reversion happens 35 years after the release of the 1984 classic, is in early talks with Deadpool director and VFX wiz Tim Miller to direct a reboot and conclusion of one of cinema’s great science fiction tales.

Will you be going to see it?
 
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MovieKnut

Member: Rank 2
A glutton for punishment, I will be there. Hopefully, with Cameron's input, this should be good. I seem to be in a minority here, but I liked 3 & 4. Didn't like 5. Would be open to a retcon going back to T2.
 

Doctor Omega

Member: Rank 10
I liked 3. I thought it wrapped the trilogy up nicely.

Am not sure what to think of this new proposed film though.
 

Hux

Member: Rank 6
I usually just wait for movies to come on Sky Movies these days (the cinema is a rare treat) but I'll be more than happy to see what they do with it. There's definitely more stories to tell in that universe.
 
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